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marc9000
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Message 288 of 473 (893584)
04-16-2022 10:26 PM
Reply to: Message 283 by xongsmith
04-16-2022 2:43 PM


Re: The Biden Presidency Thus Far
marc, are you vaccinated yet? or are you an anti-vaxxer?
Somewhat in the middle. I got the two main Moderna doses last September, am now overdue for the 1st booster. Not (as of now) planning to bother with it. The pandemic seems to be winding down on its own, like the one from 100 years ago.
if you are, you can thank Biden for implementing the program so fast.
I can? "Operation Warp Speed" happened under the Trump administration.
quote:
The first news report of Operation Warp Speed was on April 29, 2020,[3][4][5] and the program was officially announced on May 15, 2020.
Operation Warp Speed - Wikipedia
Can you tell me who was president in April and May of 2020? So Biden gets ALL the credit for the development of Covid vaccines? Where did you learn this, CNN?
if you're not, then you are an asshole to the health of the country. Asshole count++.
To borrow a line from an old Gene Hackman movie - If you're trying to get me to lose my composure, you're not going to succeed, I'm very good at what I do. (and I'm modest too)
Why would he make waves for his best pro-totalitarian friend in the US? No - he waits until a Democrat is in office. And you sort of "cheered". Asshole count++.
Putin feared and respected Trump, though they didn't have much in common. I "sort of cheered" because I don't like seeing the suffering that's gone on there. Putin sees / saw Biden for what he is, another weak, spineless Jimmy Carter.
What leaders? Name them
quote:
The White House unsuccessfully tried to arrange calls between President Biden and the de facto leaders of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates as the U.S. was working to build international support for Ukraine and contain a surge in oil prices, said Middle East and U.S. officials.
Saudi, Emirati Leaders Decline Calls With Biden During Ukraine Crisis - WSJ
Are they Putin, Il Jung, Erdogan, Le Pen? Yunno, the leading assholes of the world?
Not completely, but there may be a few you don't like. But it's often in the U.S. best interests to co-operate with them in certain ways, to have a president that's not a laughingstock.
It speaks volumes on YOU to pick on his age from a few grossly exaggerated right-wing clips.
How can they be exaggerated when they show his senile actions on video? But I apologize, the left never had anything derogatory to say about Trump personally, did they?
marc9000 writes:
Biden closed construction of the Keystone XL pipeline as soon as he took office.
LOLOL!!! What a dumbo YOU are to believe this has anything to do with gas prices.
That's something I'll never be able to understand, it's such basic economics to know that when production goes down, scarcity and prices go up. How you can claim that production (pipeline transportation in this case) can go down, and availability and price can stay the same, is beyond me. But I'm experienced enough on far left forums to know that if I try to explore that with you, you'll fly into a rage and immediately say that you didn't claim that at all!!! Then you'll call me a lot of vulgar names, and get a half dozen green dots, including one from Jar the conservative!
Dummy, No. Stupidity's sense...a few temporary jobs for NO FUCKIN OIL, instead we deliver it to the world market and take all the aquifer risks.
Do you know the route of the Keystone Pipeline? It goes from Canada right to the midwest U.S. and stops. It goes to U.S. refineries. Did CNN tell you that it goes right to world markets and we don't get it? Did you hear Peppermint Patty assure us that U.S. oil companies have countless permits to drill, and don't bother to do it? But she forgot to mention that there's NO Oil in those places, or not near enough to make it worthwhile.
Open your eyes! We want Medicare for All, we want to end voting rules that are clearly targeting non-white voters...
You act like these are things we once had, that Republicans have recently taken away. These are only very recent Democrat demands, they're not constitutional, and since the national debt is at an all time high, we can't afford them. This is the kind of goofiness that I think Bill Maher is referring to above, maybe you should watch that video again.
i may have missed a few somethings...
You missed one general one that covers it all, communism.

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marc9000
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Message 290 of 473 (893715)
04-18-2022 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 289 by xongsmith
04-18-2022 10:29 AM


Re: The Biden Presidency Thus Far
Think again. Everytime they (mostly Republican Governors and state officials) start to relax standards of masking and distancing, the virus comes back. I see that airplanes have backtracked on their premature relaxing of masking and now have returned to requiring masks.
I do keep an eye on things, and may change what I do concerning the vaccine, not because of Republican actions, but because of new highs of illegals pouring over the southern border, some of whom have the virus, and are nowhere near getting the proper screenings. But most people aren't aware of that, the Democrat owned mainstream media has completely shut down any and all reporting about the southern border disaster.
The U.S. founders made lots of references to the importance of free speech and a free press, in many verified quotes and documents, not only in the first amendment.
quote:
As the Virginia Declaration of Rights put it “That the freedom of the press is one of the greatest bulwarks of liberty and can never be restrained but by despotic governments.”
Freedom of the Press in the eyes of the Founding Fathers
The concern of course, was a press that's restrained by the government, something common throughout the world today. But the U.S. today has all the over-the-air press controlled by one despotic political party. 99% as bad, and the greatest danger the U.S. now faces IMO. The only ray of hope is today's all time low in public trust of the mainstream media. Today's technology that allows people to get news from other, uncontrolled sources is a large part of the reason for hope.
marc9000 writes:
I can? "Operation Warp Speed" happened under the Trump administration.
that was just his butt gas. he didn't implement it, just waved his hands at it.
marc9000 writes:
So Biden gets ALL the credit for the development of Covid vaccines?
can't you read? i said IMPLEMENT, not DEVELOP. that was Germany and other foreign sites that developed it.
Let's try it again then. So Biden gets ALL the credit for implementation of Covid vaccines? Here's a hint, Johnson and Johnson, Pfizer are not German or foreign. I have some more links ready if you need them.
You need to get better glasses. Putin regards Trump as a Useful Tool, not something to respect.
His recent invasion of Ukraine, his more prominent control of the oil market, indicates to me that he likes his Biden tool much more than his Trump tool.
well, the fucking Saudis are such a fine group. aren't they responsible for birthing Osama Bin Laden? they have the world by the oily balls and that means the Republican Party and much of the Democrats.
They're so fine that Biden attempted unsuccessfully to communicate with them.
how about this from the right?:
[snip liberal drivel and hate]
So you believe this person represents the majority of the right?
you can skip that if you like, but
I did, most of it, I've seen it all before here, and other socialist sites. But a couple of references;
He denies scientific fact. Ever notice that the only people you hear denying climate change are politicians and lobbyists?
No I haven't noticed that. I've noticed that a LOT of the American public denies it too, because they have a knowledge of world history, of how tyrants use fear to gain power. They have knowledge of how bearers of "scientific fact" get their money and power.
also;
The Jim Acosta reaction is a good example. There was no defense of his convictions when Acosta was asking him repeated questions about his rhetoric on the caravan. His response was to attack Acosta.
So this guy's a conservative Republican, and he loves Jim Acosta? Acosta's rude, repeated badgering him about "the caravan" that Trump completely answered? A caravan that was / is very real that the news media NEVER reports on? At least Trump didn't call Acosta a son-of-a-girl-dog, something that Biden called a Fox reporter on an open mike, a Fox reporter who isn't near as obnoxious as Acosta. The mainstream media gave him a pass of course.
you didn't see that Trump made a deal with the Saudis to slow production down?
No I didn't notice, probably because I didn't see oil price increases. If Trump did that, it was probably because we produced enough of our own oil.
KXL would have had ZERO effect, Marc. And what would I " immediately say that you didn't claim that at all!!!"??? can you point out this weird aspect for me?
I didn't say that you'd say that I didn't claim that at all, you'd say that YOU didn't claim that at all. Let's look at it all again;
quote:
Marc9000; That's something I'll never be able to understand, it's such basic economics to know that when production goes down, scarcity and prices go up. How you can claim that production (pipeline transportation in this case) can go down, and availability and price can stay the same, is beyond me. But I'm experienced enough on far left forums to know that if I try to explore that with you, you'll fly into a rage and immediately say that you didn't claim that at all!!! Then you'll call me a lot of vulgar names, and get a half dozen green dots, including one from Jar the conservative!
You're saying that hindering production / distribution will not affect prices and availability. Most high school students know that it will.
it goes right over one of the biggest aquifers of clean water in the country, an aquifer that the native americans want to protect.
Fox News said the other day that a typical family of four pays $211 more now per month for food than they did a year ago. Tractor-trailers (that deliver food) get around 6 to 7 mpg on diesel fuel. Trucking companies can't immediately recover these increased fuel costs, they did immediately raise them a little, which accounts for a significant part of that $211, but they eventually have to recover it all, trucking doesn't operate on a huge profit margin. Food costs are going to continue to spike, some people realize that, and the emotions of drum-beating nutcases like Nick Sandmans favorite protester don't concern them too much.
all down to Texas refineries and then gets shipped out over the Gulf of Mexico to the world market, which will mean that the US doesn't see 1 single gallon of gasoline from this environmentally dangerous boondoggle until after the world market sets the price and includes it in the shipping around the world, some of which then returns to the greedy US Oil barons.
Do ya think maybe the world market would set the price a little lower if there was more oil? Oil that's cheaper to move that is, it's not that there's all that much more oil, the oil that's supposed to flow through the pipeline still exists, it just has to move by oil guzzling trains and trucks, making the price higher. But the railroads take care of the Big Guy, don't they?
LOLOL!! no, you dummy - these are goals we should adopt.
That's what Castro told the Cuban people in 1959, by 1969 some Cubans were fitting pontoons on 1953 Plymouths to try to float their way to the U.S. to get away from those wonderful goals.
jeez, i can remember Medicare For All being a goal for decades, but the Repugnicans never want to spend money on people, just rich donors. The Debt has only improved under Democratic administrations. Liz Warren wants to enact a wealth tax and many want the oligarch billionaires to pay more in taxes than the average school teacher. OF COURSE WE CAN AFFORD THEM, if you fucks would quit spending on the rich billionaires.
You have no comprehension of the difference between billions, and trillions, do you? Trust me, millionaires and billionaires do not have trillions of dollars.
OH NO! you are a Joe McCarthy fan!!! Communism is the same as Fascism - totalitarian. It should be avoided as should Fascism. Why are there Repugnants who openly support Putin? Why do you seem to think the left wants any of this?
No - it is the Republican Party who supports Fascism and Communism.
Fascism - grow the government.
Communism - grow the government.
2022 U.S. Democrats - grow the government.
AOC says Democrats and Biden need to go further LEFT to stand a chance in the midterms | Daily Mail Online
Again, Biden's approval ratings are currently lower than whale shit. As I said a few messages back, the main reason I bumped this thread, is to see some proposals about what the far left thinks the Democrats should do to avoid Republican gains this November. Do you agree with AOC?

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marc9000
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Message 306 of 473 (908720)
03-19-2023 9:14 PM


More mainstream news media cover-up
January 11,2023
quote:
“For the past two years, the Biden Administration and Big Tech worked overtime to hide information about the Biden family’s suspicious business schemes and Joe Biden’s involvement. Now that Democrats no longer have one-party rule in Washington, oversight and accountability are coming. For years, the Biden family peddled influence and access around the world for profit, often at the expense of our nation’s interests. The American people must know the extent of Joe Biden’s involvement in his family’s shady business deals. and if these deals threaten national security and his decision-making as president.
Comer Announces New Actions in Biden Family Investigation - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability
March 14,2023
quote:
“After two months of dragging their feet, the Treasury Department is finally providing us with access to the suspicious activity reports for the Biden family and their associates’ business transactions. It should never have taken us threatening to hold a hearing and conduct a transcribed interview with an official under the penalty of perjury for Treasury to finally accommodate part of our request. For over 20 years, Congress had access to these reports but the Biden Administration changed the rules out of the blue to restrict our ability to conduct oversight.
“According to bank documents we’ve already obtained, we know one company owned by a Biden associate received a $3 million dollar wire from a Chinese energy company two months after Joe Biden left the vice presidency. Soon after, hundreds of thousands of dollars in payouts went to members of the Biden family. We are going to continue to use bank documents and suspicious activity reports to follow the money trail to determine the extent of the Biden family’s business schemes, if Joe Biden is compromised by these deals, and if there is a national security threat. If Treasury tries to stonewall our investigation again, we will continue to use tools at our disposal to compel compliance.”
Comer: Treasury Department Caves, Provides Access to Biden Family & Their Associates’ SARs - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability
NO REPORTS on any of this by ABC World News Tonight.
It's easy to see what was / is going on. For the last year of Biden's vice presidency, most of the mainstream media pundits were laughing at Trump, and predicting an easy victory for Hillary Clinton, assuming one, and probably two terms for Hillary. Biden was 73 / 74 years old at this point, and was thinking about little more than retirement, plus a few nice bonuses for family members. Who knows what he sold China to get it. Comer's not guessing yet, but stay tuned to CONSERVATIVE news. The mainstream will cover it up as long as it can. There are many other more important things to report I guess, weather sensationalism, Trump's possible payout to a whore 6+ years ago etc. I guess these are bigger national security threats than Biden's personal dealings with China while vice president, and big tech's censorship of free speech.

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marc9000
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Message 312 of 473 (908816)
03-20-2023 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 307 by Percy
03-20-2023 8:40 AM


Re: More mainstream news media cover-up
I think most of us are for finding and punishing wrongdoing without regard to political affiliation.
I don't. I think most of the Democrat base, the audience of the mainstream news media reports, approves of the way anything that isn't favorable to Democrats is covered up.
By the way, a big reason I decided to bump this 8 month long hibernating thread, is your Message 231 in the other thread, so thank you for that. But there was one other reason. For 3 straight evenings (4 now) ABC World News Tonight has referred to Trumps former lawyer Micheal Cohen as Trump's "fixer". This is a brilliant term, used as one of many building blocks the news media came up with as a way to discredit him, to make him look so clumsy that he has to have some appointed person to, legally or illegally, patch up his blunders. You'd think these supposed journalists would have enough sense to drop that term 2 years after his presidency is over. But they don't, without realizing that it can inspire some people who aren't Trump haters to ask; WHO IS BIDEN'S FIXER? He's done plenty of blunders that needed fixing in the past 2 years, who has been "fixing" them? Let's do a quick look to find out who his personal attorney is;
Who are the president's private attorneys and is Biden paying the legal bills? - CBS News
quote:
But little is known about the team of attorneys representing the most powerful person in the world in his personal capacity. Aside from naming Bauer, the White House and Mr. Biden's legal team have thus far declined to disclose who else is representing the president. It's also not clear whether it is Mr. Biden who is paying his private attorneys' fees or another entity.
So we have a (practically unknown) Bob Bauer, and a host of other unnamed attorneys. ALL of them had to spring into action when classified documents were found in Biden's garage, as only one example. They dutifully turned the documents over to the Democrat run FBI, so I guess that FIXED it. It fixed it with the mainstream media, that's for sure.
Or maybe the mainstream media anchors are his FIXERS. That's an easy job of course, all they have to do is NOT REPORT anything that makes him look bad, except of course, big news that's all over other sources. Months ago, they had no choice but to at least briefly touch on the mess at the southern border. That's all forgotten now though. Fox News has been recently showing videos of Chinese illegals coming over the southern border now. Will his fixers in the mainstream media be compelled to briefly skim over that in the coming days? Nothing yet.
This seems to be saying that only "CONSERVATIVE news" will report accurately and honestly. But instead of declaring one set of media outlets the font of truth regardless of what they actually say, might a better goal be ferreting out the truth regardless of source?
As I have said here before, the way to ferret out the truth is to get news from multiple sources, as I do. I'm the first to admit that Fox News is probably just as guilty as the mainstream media in covering up news that isn't favorable to their "side". But Fox News was conceived in 1996 as balance to the liberal news media. If the liberal news media would have actually learned something, they would have made some attempts to correct themselves, and watched Fox fizzle out, with nothing more to do. But no, they've responded by doubling down, and by now, giving Fox top ratings in many prime time slots.
Sometimes it can be hard to distinguish between a "journalist" versus an opinionated personality. Fox News has some journalists, Jon Scott and Bret Baier come to mind. That's what David Muir of ABC is supposed to be. I don't think we'll ever see Scott or Baier use a stupid, snide term like "fixer" against Democrats like Muir does against Republicans.
One of the big talking points the liberal media has been using against Fox lately is how Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham, and another one or two were sending private messages to each other questioning or condemning on-air reports about the 2020 election being stolen. But isn't that almost like they were concerned about what the TRUTH actually was? When the mainstream media was lying about Trump-Russian collusion, or Hunter Biden laptop Russian mis-information, no private questioning about those lies seemed to be happening. Could that be because mainstream anchors and personalities are much more in lockstep with carrying water for Democrats instead of finding out what the truth actually is?

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marc9000
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Message 416 of 473 (911555)
07-14-2023 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 383 by AZPaul3
07-04-2023 1:51 PM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
If Biden dies before the nomination is set, Kamala, the heir apparent, appears to be the only thing the dems have going and my tea leaves say that is a loss.
"If Biden dies", not much if any talk from notable political commentators about one little historical fact; The U.S. has had 8 presidents die in office, 4 from natural causes, 4 by assassination. Every time, the voters selected their vice president, or another person of the same party to be their successor. People have a natural tendency to be sympathetic towards the party of a president who dies in office, and it's understandable. Anyone can see that Biden has a better chance of dying in office than most past presidents. The Dems are in the drivers seat if that happens, and it's one of the reasons he's so protected and defended by the news media, the FBI, the DOJ etc.
You may now cut loose with the vulgar name calling.

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marc9000
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Message 419 of 473 (911569)
07-15-2023 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 417 by AZPaul3
07-15-2023 12:07 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
While I almost agree with your views here, the real reason Biden is so protected and defended by the news media, the FBI, the DOJ etc., is because he is president of the united states which means thousands of crazy people want to kill him. No reason necessary.
I wasn't referring to physical protection, I meant protection from investigation, protection from most questioning about his and his family's past and present corruption. Trump is much more likely to be assassinated, considering all the hate that has been drummed up against him by all branches of the political left.
So, back to the Dark Side. Can Trump coast to a nomination or will DeSantis make some waves?
Short of any major unforeseen changes, Trump will have it. Recent polls show that his popularity actually goes up whenever a new witch hunt against him is all over the news, be it about yet another woman he knew 40 years ago coming forward, to the "tremendous national security hazard of the documents that were stored at Mara-Lago", while nothing is said about Biden's garage's security.
Most of the other Republican candidates are really solid, I wouldn't mind seeing one of them beating Trump, - DeSantis, Scott, Elder. Pence is a wimp. Christie the RINO is just a Democrat plant, pretty easy for me to see that most, if not all of his campaign is funded by the Democrat party, and his only job is to hammer on Trump. I think that will backfire too, he's not likeable. It will help Trump. I'd like to see Trump pick Tim Scott as his running mate. Scott would then be good for 2028.
Ramaswamy is really good, but he has a goofy name, don't think we'll ever have a president Ramaswamy. An unfortunate characteristic of human nature, but that's the way it is. Same with crackly voice RFK junior. Every time he talks it sounds like he's about to cry. No chance, he can't make speeches that would impress many Americans, let alone foreign leaders. He'd get laughed at as much as Biden does now!

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marc9000
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Message 420 of 473 (911570)
07-15-2023 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 418 by Percy
07-15-2023 11:00 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
You can look through this and describe which ones are protecting and defending Biden and how they're doing it
How ya doin Percy, white power.
I don't really understand your point, most of those headlines aren't derogatory towards Biden. I'd like to see that list alongside of headlines containing the word "Trump" by the Washington post, over any period of time in the past 7 years for comparison, but you'd have to find that for me, I don't do the WP, not giving them my email address. Besides, I have enough trouble keeping my stomach contents down trying to keep up with the jaw-dropping news omissions and distortions of ABC World News Tonight.
How is the FBI under the leadership of conservative Trump appointee Christopher Wray protecting and defending Biden?
Christopher Wray is no longer conservative. Several prominent people in politics have done 180's, almost always because of the way the money flows. Joe Scarborough made about $135,000 as a VERY conservative Republican Florida congressman in the 1990's. Now he makes $6 million per year as a liberal pundit. Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris went the other way, he now writes for the NY Post. It happens, different people have a harder time than others understanding these 180 degree flip flops, but few can deny they are real. 2 + years into the current Democrat administration, who knows how Wray's income has changed, not only in the amount, but where it comes from.
How is the DOJ protecting and defending Biden, especially given the absence of the constant berating we saw under Trump of the DOJ not protecting and defending him enough.

How DOJ protected Hunter Biden and his father - Washington Times
Cocaine found in the White House, case closed, don't know who did it, don't care. The James Comer investigations, almost completely covered up in the mainstream news. It goes on and on, Biden is well covered for, he knows he can laugh and walk away when asked questions.
By the way, I'm only back after a 3 month absence because of an email notification of a recent response to one of my messages. Couldn't resist a little more battle, but I'm about done for awhile again. Not as fun as it used to be.

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marc9000
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Message 422 of 473 (911572)
07-16-2023 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 421 by Percy
07-16-2023 9:31 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
marc900 writes:
How ya doin Percy, white power.

Project much?
Just having fun.
Absolutely, your wish is my command, oh goal post mover, since now apparently how WaPo protects and defends Biden depends upon what they've said about Trump.
It's not really a goal post move, and it really does depend on how they've treated Trump. There was not ONE headline about Biden in your list that implied that he's ever done anything illegal or shady. There were a few political things about others disagreement with him, something that happens with all presidents of course, but nothing like;
BIDEN TRIES TO UNCONSTITUNALLY FORGIVE STUDENT LOAN DEBT WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.
BIDEN MAKES NO STATEMENT CONCERNING COCAINE FOUND IN WHITE HOUSE
BIDEN REVERSES COURSE ON DECISION TO SEND CLUSTER AMMUNITION TO UKRAINE.
RECENT TESTIMONY SHOWS BIDEN LASHES OUT IN PROFANITY LACED TIRADES AGAINST WHITE HOUSE STAFFERS, AFTER EARLIER IN HIS ADMINISTRATION, HE SAID HE WOULD FIRE ANYONE WHO TREATED CO-WORKERS WITH DISRESPECT.
That's about all I can quickly think about for the last 2 weeks, think of what that would look like if we went back two years.
Now for the Trump headlines, roughly HALF of them imply illegality on Trump's part. Dozens of them in the Trump headlines, none in the Biden's headlines. I guess in the last 2 weeks there has been no new speculation about Biden's suspected foreign bribes,
How the Bidens used shell companies to enrich themselves
I hope it's now clear on how the WaPo protects Biden. It's not because Trump did more things suspected of being illegal than Biden has, most of those Trump headlines were based on political speculation, not hardcore facts. The U.S. founders used the actual term BRIBE as a reason for impeachment. Biden is suspected of bribery by foreign nations much more than Trump ever was.
And there are Democrats who have become more conservative or joined the Republican party. How is politicians changing ideologies and affiliations evidence that Christopher Wray's have changed such that he is no longer a conservative or member of the Republican party, because he very much is still a conservative member of the Republican party.
quote:
Wray also faced questions about one of the most recent violations of FISA guidelines: the surveillance of a former Trump adviser during 2016 using faulty warrant applications.
and
quote:
Wray offered virtually no insight into what the FBI is doing to investigate allegations of illegal foreign lobbying and money laundering by members of the Biden family, even as evidence of misconduct in that investigation mounts.
Nine takeaways from FBI Director Christopher Wray's testimony | Washington Examiner
Then why do his recent actions suggest that he might be a Democrat now?
The Republican party is providing an excellent example of eating their own. Look at what happened to Republicans like Raffensberger in Georgia, and Geraldine Roll, Lisa Marra, Lynn Constabile and Leslie Hoffman in Arizona. Republican Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer is suing Kari Lake over her vitriol and threats at the same time that she's receiving mention as a possible Trump running mate.
Democrats don't do comparable things? One of the WaPo headlines was "Why can't Republicans quit Trump?" Polls show that a majority of Democrats don't want Biden to seek a second term. His ratings are currently below 40%. I didn't notice a headline "Why can't Democrats quit Biden?"
Republicans are just going to have to accept that Christopher Wray's FBI was unable to find the evidence they wanted because it doesn't exist and not because Wray has suddenly become a Biden supporting liberal.
That's just something you and I will never agree on, time might make the truth about Wray more clear in the next year or two.
You can't just present a bare link. Please present the evidence for how the DOJ protected Hunter Biden and his father. I skimmed the article - good luck.
quote:
Between 2018 and 2023, you would not believe the acrobatics that Biden-friendly DOJ bureaucracy went through to try to kill the case.
It's complicated, but it's summarized well in that link. You skimmed too fast.
Aren't his committee's investigations still ongoing with no report released yet?
Yes, just like a lot of investigations into Trump were ongoing with no official report released, but that didn't stop the mainstream media from spending a lot of time giving the play-by-play, complete with their Democrat friendly speculation and guesses.
Given that Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene sit on the committee, it's no wonder it is high on innuendo and low on facts
That goes both ways of course, I feel the same way about committees with the likes of Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell.
Here are all the articles with Comer's name in the headlines at the Washington Post for the past few months. What do you believe was covered up?
There hasn't been ONE WORD about any of it on ABC World News Tonight. And probably also not on CBS or NBC's evening news programs. The most powerful weapon the mainstream media has can be summed up in one word, "subliminal". Here's the definition;
quote:
existing or operating below the threshold of consciousness; being or employing stimuli insufficiently intense to produce a discrete sensation but often being or designed to be intense enough to influence the mental processes or the behavior of the individual:
Subliminal Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com
The danger in the liberal mainstream news isn't necessarily in the pages of the WaPo or the NY Times, or anyplace people go to specifically get their news. The evening news broadcasts have the power. A huge percentage of voters don't pay much attention at all to national politics. When they get home at the end of the day, their television comes on for them to get local news, local crime, road closures, weather reports. They don't care much about national politics, but the television stays on while the half hour national news recaps (har) come on. Some of them aren't paying enough attention to know that they're listening in the background to a liberal entertainment show, not a recap of actual national news. Their kids (future voters) might be playing on the floor, listening to climate change hype, and thinking that there have NEVER in history been extreme weather, or hot weather in summer. It terrifies them of course, and the Republicans whose fault they're told it is.
Many Biden voters have said they'd have never voted for him if they'd have known about the Hunter Biden laptop story that the evening news broadcasts completely covered up. Those voters alone would have swung the 2020 election for Trump. ABC World News Tonight claims to be the most watched program on television. I'm sure that's right, but they can only go by the number of sets that are ON, not on whose watching it, or paying varying degrees of attention to it. Those people in the subliminal clutches of the evening news, have mostly forgotten about the southern border, inflation, etc. They'll quickly forget about cocaine in the White House. They sure wouldn't forget it if it had been found in the Trump White House.
Gotta go now, almost time for the evening news. I'll now learn how hot it is due to Republican use of fossil fuels, and JANUARY 6TH, JANUARY 6TH, JANUARY 6TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Message 426 of 473 (911599)
07-18-2023 5:25 PM
Reply to: Message 424 by Percy
07-16-2023 9:21 PM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
marc9000 writes:
Just having fun.

Oh, you're one of those, say something terrible and then follow it with, "Hey, just having fun," as if that makes it okay.
Terrible? It's just an ancient, outdated KKK greeting. Did that break forum rules? It's nothing compared some of the names I've been called here. But really, you should just lighten up. Learn to laugh at yourself. If you don't, I'll be glad to laugh at yourself.
So when you said the liberal media protects and defends Biden, what you really meant was that Trump has a great many legal difficulties for the news media to report on, while Biden has none, so you want the news media to report on the made up ones, like the ones we hear snippets of from the Comer committee.
Nothing made up, Comer has bank records, he has evidence of Biden-created shell companies, the list is long. Tomorrow should be interesting, a hearing involving 2 whistleblowers, a 3rd FBI agent has recently corroborated what they've said. I won't have time to watch, but I'll get recaps of it. We'll see if the Democrats have anything besides anger.
Trump has legal problems all right, floozies from decades ago claiming he stared at them too long. Much different than Biden's treason I guess.
And you conclude something shady or illegal about Biden not commenting?
Very comparable to several derogatory Trump headlines from your list. "The staggering scale of Trump's speaking fees...", "Trump reveals new details about $1 billion in earnings..." several other headlines there.
The Secret Service reported that about 500 people came through the cell-phone storage room in the applicable timeframe and that they saw no way to figure out who left the cocaine behind, given that there was no DNA found on the package.
And if it would have happened in the Trump white house, they'd have figured it out. The bias in the FBI and DOJ do seem to be bleeding into the Secret Service.
marc9000 writes:
BIDEN REVERSES COURSE ON DECISION TO SEND CLUSTER AMMUNITION TO UKRAINE
You find this illegal or shady? Shouldn't the concerns be more along ethical/moral lines? They're banned in 123 countries. WaPo reported in detail on the cluster bomb issue, there were four articles about it in my list, I don't see how you missed them.
That wasn't the point. The phrase "REVERSES COURSE", was constantly used by the liberal pundits and the supposed unbiased news anchors every time Trump made a decision in reaction to changing events. That phrase is forgotten now when referring to anything Biden does. That, and the "fixer" reference to Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen, (while Biden's personal lawyer Bob Bauer is / was NEVER referenced like that with Biden, or when he served under Obama for that matter.) It's this kind of cleverness and distortion by the news media that could have very well tipped the scales for Biden just as much as the Hunter Biden laptop cover-up did.
Nothing can be done about this of course, in the end, it's the largely disinterested public's gullibility. And it's their fault. And you'll keep right on claiming that there is no bias in the mainstream media.
There's no WaPo article because it was an Axios scoop (Old yeller: Biden's private fury). Axios is a left leaning news outlet. It's disappointing to learn this, but it's not illegal or shady, though perhaps staff should register complaints with the appropriate department about a hostile work environment.
And the public doesn't know about it, evening reports won't touch it. 15 minutes of the half hour reports would be all over it if it were Trump.
That's because Trump is under criminal investigation in multiple jurisdictions and has been indicted in two, one in Manhattan for illegal business practices, and another in Florida for mishandling confidential government documents.
And Biden is under criminal investigation for foreign bribery by the recently elected Republican congress. The public gets one blasted to them for the past 6 years, the other for the past 6 months? Not so much. How many points the angry Democrats score tomorrow will determine how much of that hearing the general public sees on the evening news.
And of course WaPo consistently reports on the Comer committee's activities.
And the evening news, where so many voters get a glimpse of what's going on, never touch it.
Is that what you wanted reported in the news, speculation?
Why yes, there is / was tons of it when it came to Trump / Russian collusion. There's a lot of it in the anti-Trump headlines you posted above.
But there's no evidence. There's only Republicans making up stories that they know will get their base really steamed.
Comer has bank records, and other evidence. The time will come when it will be all over conservative news, and the mainstream will have to report it one or two days at least, to keep from losing still more viewers and advertising revenue. Maybe tomorrow, then after a few days, back to JANUARY 6TH!!!! Just like the southern border a few months ago, just like cocaine in the white house.
marc9000 writes:
I hope it's now clear on how the WaPo protects Biden.

What's not clear is why you think you've shown this.
It's clear only by looking at the two lists of headlines you posted, that is, if the person looking doesn't live in the tiny mainstream news bubble, and doesn't know what's going on with Biden.
Biden isn't under any criminal investigations, and he certainly hasn't been indicted.
They've had over 6 years to attack Trump, complete with indictments. Speaker Pelosi blocked any investigations of Biden the first two years of his presidency. Give it a little more time, starting tomorrow.
Is this the same as how the evidence that the 2020 election was stolen will be made public soon?
Could be, just like evidence of how Trump / Russian collusion was proven a lie, oh wait it was!! Very quietly briefed to the public one or two days, then back to JANUARY 6TH!!!!
marc9000 writes:
quote:
Between 2018 and 2023, you would not believe the acrobatics that Biden-friendly DOJ bureaucracy went through to try to kill the case.

It's complicated, but it's summarized well in that link. You skimmed too fast.
It's still a bare link. If you'd like the article's arguments and evidence to become part of the discussion then you must describe them yourself.
How about this; between 2018 and 2023, the Biden-friendly DOJ, combined with the complicit news media, went through a lot of acrobatics to keep the public from seeing things about Biden they don't want them to see.
Was that too short? Does that break forum rules?
How many times have I explained to you the limited range of coverage a half-hour nightly news program can provide?
About as many times as I've explained how influential those half hour programs are, how many millions more get their recaps of news there, rather than headlines in newspapers, many of those headlines buried in the back pages.
You complain about them all the time, you must have a masochistic streak that keeps you watching them.

I wouldn't know. You can only get a tiny sliver of news on a half-hour nightly news program. Your time might be better spent.
It's well spent, it's important to get some ideas of how voters get their news, about just how the biased news media misinforms and distorts. When legal action against them is or isn't taken. When legal action is taken against conservative news outlets. If there is bias in how the legal system treats different legal actions against different news organizations.
There was nothing regarding illegalities on the Hunter Biden laptop. I think you're obsessed with television.
Nothing but plenty of suspicion. I'm obsessed about cover-ups.

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Message 427 of 473 (911600)
07-18-2023 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 425 by Percy
07-17-2023 9:39 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
There's an apropos column in today's post: The MAGA persecution complex is eating itself to death. It echos what I was just saying
Of course it echos, the mainstream media often has one person come up with a catch phrase that amuses them, and the entire news media goes wild with it. This week it's "eating their own", "eating itself to death", the "eating" term is now the favorite. Google it, you'll find CNN, MSNBC, many others are delighting themselves with it. Here you go;
republicans eating their own - Google Search
Fox shows varieties of those montages many times with the latest terms they all jump on, it's hilarious to watch. "Fixer" was a big one back during the Trump presidency.
Just a moment...
While "eating their own" is a fun one for them, does it really have any depth? Is is supposed to imply that prominent Republicans will fade into obscurity now? Or that Republican voters will now flock to the party of A.O.C. and John Fetterman? Did the Democrats "eat their own" when they were yammering about Trump / Russian collusion?
Republican accusations of social media giants censoring conservatives is "dizzying", according to your c/p, when there was no secret of them censoring Trump when he was president? Twitter files prove that there really was conservative censoring of others besides just Trump. Is that proof dizzying?

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Message 428 of 473 (911602)
07-18-2023 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 425 by Percy
07-17-2023 9:39 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
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But GOP lawmakers floated so many allegations and conspiracy theories that the spectacle devolved into a haphazard, scattered mess with no storylines developed in meaningful depth.
Republicans have a LOT TO DO, a lot to catch up on. With speaker Pelosi's blockage of any investigations during Biden's first two years, and all the corruption of Biden's eight years of his vice presidency, it only appears to be a "scattered mess" to those who are afraid of it. It will take some time, Democrats will really have to be on their toes to shield the public from it as much as they can.

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Message 433 of 473 (911623)
07-20-2023 10:05 AM
Reply to: Message 429 by Percy
07-19-2023 11:01 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
When there's a similar diagram for the Biden family you let us know.
I won't be able to do that, because the Biden's aren't business people - they don't / never have produced a product or service, unlike the Trumps. But they deal in millions of dollars. What is it that Biden sold for millions of dollars during his vice-presidency?
If criminal and treasonous activities were carried on by the Bidens then I hope they are uncovered and the Biden's held accountable, but Comer still seems to be seeking the evidence that a couple months ago he claimed he already had. One gets the feeling that he just likes creating occasions where he can say things like "Biden crime family."
We'll have to see how it plays out, but a big part of that will be how much of it is shielded from the public. The shielding we're starting out with is really unbelievable. Let's see, January 6th 2021 happened about 900 days ago. I'd estimate that most people who don't live under a rock have seen carefully edited footage of that day somewhere around 200 to 300 times. Monday evening, ABC's David Muir showed it yet again, as he was ejaculating all over himself about Trump's latest indictment. Tuesday morning, ABC's "Good Morning America" show , featuring former Clinton sidekick George Stephanopoulos did the same thing. No comments on either show about the upcoming Hunter Biden hearing. Wednesday morning and evening on those two shows, NO MENTION of the hearing. When the hearing started, I watched the first 15 minutes or so. Flipped around to all the other channels that had a chance of showing it. ABC, CBS, NBC, nothing. CNBC, MSNBC, CNN, even both C-spans, nothing. Though I don't know how C-span works, it might record these types of things and show them in detail later. But without Fox New, there would have been no real time coverage. Now about some other hearings from the past;
quote:
However, the two liberal networks that carried every hearing involving Russiagate, the Ukraine scandal, Jan. 6 and both impeachments of former President Trump, declined to cover the IRS whistleblowers that fuel corruption allegations against the Democrat currently in the White House. They instead aired limited segments recapping the testimony.
EVERY HEARING. Could there have been any innuendo from Democrats in those hearings?
CNN, MSNBC skip live coverage of IRS whistleblower hearing on explosive Hunter Biden probe claims | Fox News
You'll have to explain the similarity you're seeing because I don't think it's apparent to anyone else. A column about how much larger Trump speaking fees are than Biden or Clinton or about where he earned his money in his post-presidential period seems like a completely different animal from not commenting on cocaine found in a part of the White House with tourist access.
That bag of cocaine was DESTROYED. No more evidence to worry about now, is there? And there's now a suspicion that the FBI destroyed Hunter Biden's laptop. NO REPORTS IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
Oh, yeah, the Trump White House was all-knowing and all-powerful. Why does it make sense to you that immature braggadocio like this has any credibility. You're engaged in "my dad can beat up your dad" level stuff, not informed discussion.
I'm engaged in a concern of political bias in the FBI, DOJ, and Secret Service, not in "braggadocio", "my dad can beat up your dad", or anything else you made up for some reason.
I don't think anyone knows what you're on about. You believe "reverses course" had a negative connotation for Trump but not for Biden? How is a headline that includes the phrase "reverses course" an example of protecting and defending Biden?
It's not hard to understand. When the news media constantly refers to Trump decisions as "reversing course" it implies that he made a blunder in his first decision. The Biden administration is full of blunders and course reversals, but the news media never refers to anything about it as "reversing course".
Handling illegal payoffs to tryst mates is something fixers do, and it's what Michael Cohen did, so he's a fixer.
Aaaand the FBI, DOJ, Secret Service, and mainstream media showing clear political favoritism is also what "fixers" do.
marc9000 writes:
Percy writes:
How many times have I explained to you the limited range of coverage a half-hour nightly news program can provide?

About as many times as I've explained how influential those half hour programs are, how many millions more get their recaps of news there, rather than headlines in newspapers, many of those headlines buried in the back pages.

More of them watching Fox News than any other.
Fox News isn't an over-the-air channel, it's not right beside over-the-air local news shows that millions of Americans depend on. Many Americans will never pay for premium television. People are flocking to Fox News of course, there's internet information about these hearings, more and more people are becoming aware of mainstream media cover ups.
It's up to you how you spend your time, but that doesn't change the fact that only a tiny sliver of all the news can be squeezed into a half-hour news program.
Especially when 90% of that news program is JANUARY 6TH!!!!!!!!! and climate change terror.
This is getting tiresome. You've barely said one true thing in your entire post so far.
That's the first true thing you've said, it really is getting tiresome. And if nothing I've said is true, you have defeated me!

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Message 436 of 473 (911657)
07-21-2023 8:46 PM
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07-20-2023 1:19 PM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
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Returning upon invitation only.

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Message 440 of 473 (911670)
07-22-2023 9:45 PM
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07-22-2023 6:48 AM


Re: Run, Forest, Run
You sound like Kleinman.
(whatever that means) Looks like an invitation to me!! My definition of a warm, sincere invitation is very, very loose in this case. On to the presidential election thread!

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