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marc9000
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Message 151 of 228 (888614)
09-23-2021 8:20 PM


Poll numbers
20% of voters who voted for Biden now regret it.

Regrets, you’ve had a few: 20% want Biden vote back

Biden’s job approval drops to 44% amid broad criticism on Afghanistan: POLL

What should the Democrats do to avoid a shellacking in the upcoming 2022 midterms?


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marc9000
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Message 152 of 228 (888615)
09-23-2021 8:32 PM


Since the beginning of the Biden presidency, there have been very few mainstream media reports of the increasing problems at the Mexican border. Now, while abbreviating it as much as possible, they can no longer completely cover up what's been going on there. So many Americans who only get their news from the half hour mainstream media evening reports, have been blissfully ignorant of what's been going on. Now they're getting slammed with that information all at once. Is that good for a society, to have news withheld, to have ignorance build, then get hit with it all at once?

Hunter Biden could ROB A BANK, and the news media would never report it. If he were to...oh I don't know, kill somebody, would all his corrupt foreign deals during dad's vice presidency, his drug use, his sexual relations with his niece, etc etc etc, all hit the general public all at once? Would that be good for society?


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Message 153 of 228 (888617)
09-24-2021 3:47 AM
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09-23-2021 8:32 PM


Hi Marc

Interesting. As a non-American who doesn't know much about American politics, can I ask you a few questions following this part of your post?

marc9000 writes:

Hunter Biden could ROB A BANK, and the news media would never report it. If he were to...oh I don't know, kill somebody, would all his corrupt foreign deals during dad's vice presidency, his drug use, his sexual relations with his niece, etc etc etc, all hit the general public all at once? Would that be good for society?


1. Was Hunter Biden on any ballot in the USA during the last few elections?
2. Is Hunter Biden planning on running in any election in the future?
3. Has anyone in the US recently officially voted for Hunter Biden?
4. Is Hunter Biden in any current White House cabinet position?
5. Does Hunter Biden currently serve as a paid Special Advisor to the current President?

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.


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Message 154 of 228 (888620)
09-24-2021 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by marc9000
09-23-2021 8:20 PM


Re: Poll numbers
See Biden Administration a Disappointment So Far posted a month ago.

--Percy


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Message 155 of 228 (888621)
09-24-2021 10:31 AM
Reply to: Message 152 by marc9000
09-23-2021 8:32 PM


marc9000 writes:

Since the beginning of the Biden presidency, there have been very few mainstream media reports of the increasing problems at the Mexican border.

This is untrue. Here are links to just a few of the recent articles:


Now, while abbreviating it as much as possible, they can no longer completely cover up what's been going on there.

If they're covering up what's going on there, how do you explain all those articles, and how did I find out about treatment of Haitians at the border and send a note of protest to the Biden/Harris White House a few days ago. And it wasn't the first one. My consistent message over the past few months has been, "This is not what I signed up for when I voted for you."

I was particularly shocked to hear him say in an interview (paraphrasing, but this is pretty close), "I owe the Afghans who helped us zero."

So many Americans who only get their news from the half hour mainstream media evening reports, have been blissfully ignorant of what's been going on.

I very much doubt that. I don't watch TV news, but they are undoubtedly covering the same stories as the "print" press, which is where I get my news.

Now they're getting slammed with that information all at once. Is that good for a society, to have news withheld, to have ignorance build, then get hit with it all at once?

A better question is why you make things up?

Hunter Biden could ROB A BANK, and the news media would never report it. If he were to...oh I don't know, kill somebody, would all his corrupt foreign deals during dad's vice presidency, his drug use, his sexual relations with his niece, etc etc etc, all hit the general public all at once? Would that be good for society?

Except for a warped cadre of Republicans, no one thinks Hunter Biden is at all relevant to national politics. By the way, he dated his brother's widow, Hallie Biden, not her daughter/his niece, Natalie Biden.

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : Fix links.

Edited by Percy, : Typo, fix more links.


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Message 156 of 228 (888626)
09-24-2021 1:25 PM


Arizona Election Audit Shows Biden Won by EVEN MORE VOTES
Arizona Republican ‘audit’ finds even bigger lead for Biden in 2020 election

quote:
A partisan, Republican-instigated so-called “audit” of the 2020 election result in Arizona has confirmed that Joe Biden did indeed beat Donald Trump in Maricopa county, the state’s most populous county, according to a draft report of the review.

A month-long hand count of the 2.1m ballots cast in Maricopa county, which includes Phoenix, found that Biden actually won 360 more votes than Trump than was reported in the November election. Biden won Arizona’s 11 electoral votes on his way to getting more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history during the election.


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Even though the investigation was sanctioned by the GOP-controlled Arizona senate, it was funded by $5.7m in outside money, much of which came from conspiracy theorists, including $3.2m from Patrick Byrne, the former CEO of Overstock.com and an additional $1m from a non-profit founded by Michael Flynn.

Election experts have widely panned the review, which they say was rooted in shoddy practice around a pre-determined effort to show there was fraud. Ben Ginsberg, a longtime Republican election lawyer, told reporters on Thursday that Trump allies were “desperate for a win” In Maricopa county, he said, they had gotten unprecedented access to look under the hood of an election. If they were not able to prove fraud there, they were unlikely to prove it anywhere else.



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Message 157 of 228 (888627)
09-24-2021 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 156 by Tanypteryx
09-24-2021 1:25 PM


Re: Arizona Election Audit Shows Biden Won by EVEN MORE VOTES
quote:
A month-long hand count of the 2.1m ballots cast in Maricopa county...

That must be a typo. The recount was months-long, not month long. It began in April.

I'm probably stating the obvious, but the purpose of the recount wasn't to find election problems. It was to give the appearance of legitimacy to the question of whether the 2020 election was rigged. Obviously it wasn't since Trump lost by even more in the recount, but by keeping the issue in the news it provided unscrupulous politicians numerous opportunities to go before television cameras and cast aspersions at both the process and the hard working people who administer it.

Anyone who wants to read the CyberNinjas draft report can find it here: Maricopa County Forensic Audit. This isn't the final version and is subject to revision.

AbE: I've just discovered the above link doesn't work, probably because the Washington Post requires that you access the document from their website and not some other website. I've placed a copy at EvC Forum and have fixed the link.

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : AbE.


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Message 158 of 228 (888628)
09-24-2021 6:03 PM
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09-24-2021 5:02 PM


Re: Arizona Election Audit Shows Biden Won by EVEN MORE VOTES
Texas may start an audit now.

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Message 159 of 228 (888629)
09-24-2021 7:03 PM
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09-24-2021 1:25 PM


Re: Arizona Election Audit Shows Biden Won by EVEN MORE VOTES
A month-long hand count of the 2.1m ballots cast in Maricopa county...

Well sure the ballots are going to show Biden winning when you count them, but something, something, something. You have to remember you are, for all practical purposes, dealing with creationists here. Different flavor, same ingredients.


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Message 160 of 228 (888630)
09-25-2021 2:29 AM
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09-24-2021 1:25 PM


Re: Arizona Election Audit Shows Biden Won by EVEN MORE VOTES
Rob Graham livetweets the official release of the report.

Earlier he tweeted on the leaked report (linked early in the thread).

TLDR: all the “evidence” of fraud isn’t. The auditors (hired for partisan views, not experience) don’t really understand how the system operates.


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marc9000
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Message 161 of 228 (888631)
09-25-2021 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by Pressie
09-24-2021 3:47 AM


1. Was Hunter Biden on any ballot in the USA during the last few elections?

No, but during his dad's 8 year vice presidency, he flew on air force 2 with his dad hundreds of times to foreign countries, with secret service protection. He influenced access to "the big guy", for his own personal gain.

2. Is Hunter Biden planning on running in any election in the future?

Of course not. What he does is dependent on being out of the spotlight. The mainstream media co-operates.

3. Has anyone in the US recently officially voted for Hunter Biden?

No, but as the following links show, he could very well have [have had] more influence in U.S. politics than many who have been officially voted for.

4. Is Hunter Biden in any current White House cabinet position?

No. He wasn't when his dad was vice president, and he's not now. It's taken years for his political activity to surface at a few obscure news sources now, who knows what he's up to at the present. He gets less attention from the mainstream media and their allies in Hollywood now than little Baron Trump did when Trump was president.

5. Does Hunter Biden currently serve as a paid Special Advisor to the current President?

Not that's being reported. But the chances seem better that he's paid from foreign interests.

Nets Skip Hunter Trying to 'Shakedown' Libyan Gov. for Millions

Federal criminal investigation into Hunter Biden focuses on his business dealings in China

Hunter Biden dodges questions on laptop seized by FBI

It's true that 2 of those links are from CNN, a branch of the mainstream media. But that's news that people have to look for, to seek out, and that's not how a huge percentage of Americans get their news. ABC World News Tonight claims it is not only the most watched news show, it's the most watched of ALL television shows, and that's probably true. It's a 'passive' news source, it often comes on right after local news, when people are checking on local events and weather, and left on in the background, and on television sets at Wal-Marts, airports etc. That's where so much 'lying by omission' goes on.


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marc9000
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Message 162 of 228 (888632)
09-25-2021 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 154 by Percy
09-24-2021 9:57 AM


Re: Poll numbers
See Biden Administration a Disappointment So Far posted a month ago.

Yes I saw that, it's a good start. But I suspect you're not yet ready to agree with at least some of that 20% that Trump would have been the better choice.

I have no doubt that if Trump had been re-elected, by now he would have also done a pull-out in Afghanistan, and it would have been a comparable mess. There have been articles of impeachment drawn up against Biden by a few Republicans, but they'll fizzle out, they get no mainstream media attention. Of course Trump would have had yet another impeachment frenzy against him, and he probably would have been removed from office by now. See how much fun you missed?

There is one major difference in how Trump would have done a pull out however, HE WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN THE TALIBAN $83 BILLION IN MILITARY HARDWARE. No action in any Trump administration would have put the U.S. in this much additional danger.


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Message 163 of 228 (888633)
09-25-2021 10:35 AM
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09-25-2021 10:21 AM


So, Marc, with all the no answers you gave it seems as if Hunter Biden is irrelevant to US national politics.

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Message 164 of 228 (888634)
09-25-2021 10:49 AM
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09-24-2021 5:02 PM


Re: Arizona Election Audit Shows Biden Won by EVEN MORE VOTES
The final Cyber Ninjas report is in: Maricopa County Forensic Election Audit

--Percy


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Message 165 of 228 (888635)
09-25-2021 10:54 AM
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09-25-2021 10:49 AM


Re: Arizona Election Audit Shows Biden Won by EVEN MORE VOTES
Now all the other counties should be audited.

And il Donaldo says they did find massive number of questionable votes but the facts are being hidden.

If you can't believe il Donaldo who could you believe?

Remember; his support comes from cults that are totally disconnected from reality.


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