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Author Topic:   Belief Versus The Scientific Method
Porkncheese
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Message 389 of 513 (890783)
01-10-2022 4:23 PM


Science vs pseudoscience
How can you tell if a claim is pseudoscientific?

- Censorship is the mark of a pseudoscience. Im shocked people are falling for this... Open inquiry is the foundation of science and everyone should know that free speech is a pillar of western democracy...
So why do they censor. Because they are scared of the truth. They know they will loose in a debate and censoring shuts down debate.
Our doctors here are being blackmailed. Not allowed to speak their minds because they will loose their medical licenses. This has lead to untold deaths which are not being properly counted

- Claims such as "the science is settled" and "follow the science" are red flags. Science is not a religion, it cannot claim infallibility and should be always open to enquiry. Its another method of shutting down debate

- "Experts say" is another red flag... Which experts. They don't tell us which experts, who they are or anything so you can't check their credentials and you cannot challenge the claim

- "Anti-vaxer" "conspiracy theorist" Attacking the people instead of addressing their argument is what people do when they have no valid argument. Such labels are used to dismiss the person as insane therefore shutting down debate

Debate is the keystone of science but it has been shut down. I would love to see a debate between a vax advocate and a vax skeptic but the advocates will not debate. Ive heard a few challenges from the pro choice experts but none of the pro vax experts will debate them


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Porkncheese
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Message 391 of 513 (890788)
01-10-2022 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 390 by Theodoric
01-10-2022 4:31 PM


Re: Science vs pseudoscience
These guys aren't laymen, their experts
Dr Malone inventor of mrna tech
Dr Yeadon former pfizer cheif
Dr McCollough most published guy in his field
Dr Zelenko a frontline doctor who has treated thousands of patients
Dr Gold another physician with loads of experience

The mainstream experts are afraid of debating these guys cos they know they will loose... Its anti-science and anti-western democracy


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Porkncheese
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Message 398 of 513 (890799)
01-10-2022 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 395 by drlove
01-10-2022 5:04 PM


Re: Covid-19 death rate between vaccinated vs un-vaccinated by nation.
People think that these drug manufacturers are benevolent...
Many don't realize that these companies have been sued in the past and have had to pay out billions of dollars in damages from malpractice...
Our health is not their main concern. Their main concern is profit... And with Pfizer making a record high profit last year they will be looking at making more this year

There is a huge conflict of interests at play here... All the governments committed to these needles way back as early April 2020 before the trials had even finished.
This caused them to become invested in the needles. So now they have to move them how ever they can using criminal tactics like coercion.
Any data or information that puts the vax in a negative light is getting ignored.

Eg. A mate of mine had to be hospitalized the day after having a shot... The medical staff refused to consider the possibility of vaccine injury despite having no other explanation. How many times is this happening. It is causing a serious under reporting of adverse events and deaths which is already too high as it is

Most people don't support forced needles and the discrimination of the unvaxed but there is a minority that do support it. These people are yet to give me a valid response to why we should be forced. They don't care about these vax deaths and injuries, they don't care about the censorship, they don't care about the damage done by lockdowns, they don't care about anything else around them. They are only focused on one small point... Covid


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Porkncheese
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Message 399 of 513 (890802)
01-10-2022 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 397 by Tangle
01-10-2022 5:14 PM


Re: Science vs pseudoscience
What you mean is that you don't listen to opposing arguments. Not very objective

Just because he was wrong about one speculation doesn't dismiss his claims about everything else. That is no reason to avoid debate...
And besides, with the inflated death counts he was probably right.
The mainstream has been wrong about many things... This needle was supposed to bring herd immunity, end the pandemic and bring us back to normal... They were wrong. They said it would be as bad as the Spanish flu, they were wrong. They told us 2 weeks to flatten the curve, they were wrong.

And which experts are the msm citing? Can you name them? Why don't they debate?
Anyway the point is that the mainstream are shutting down debate cos they know they will loose. Its unscientific and one of Karl Poppers red flags of pseudoscience and its shutting down free speech, a foundation of western democracy


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