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Author Topic:   Belief Versus The Scientific Method
drlove
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Message 128 of 513 (890376)
01-04-2022 11:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Phat
03-25-2021 1:25 PM


belief in the method
Belief is involved in the scientific method when that method is attempted to be applied to things that involve more than the natural laws the bind science.

In what is called science we often have disagreements. For example, in the US disagreements between doctors talking about the vaccine issue.

Dr. Robert Malone: We've been watching Fauci lie for decades
In the article we see that men of science argue opposite views.


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drlove
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Message 137 of 513 (890389)
01-05-2022 3:11 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by PaulK
01-05-2022 12:27 AM


Re: belief in the method
So when one of these guys or both claim they represent science you overrule it?

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drlove
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Message 138 of 513 (890390)
01-05-2022 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 130 by AZPaul3
01-05-2022 1:34 AM


Re: belief in the method
Except that the guy who says he is a joke of a known liar happened to be the guy that invented mrna vaccine, no? Why would we favour the one opinion over the other?

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drlove
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Message 139 of 513 (890391)
01-05-2022 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by dwise1
01-05-2022 1:40 AM


Re: belief in the method
Now you are trying to favour one media over another based on one media making unsubstantiated claims about other media.

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drlove
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Message 140 of 513 (890392)
01-05-2022 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by PaulK
01-05-2022 2:00 AM


Re: belief in the method
CNN? Ha Twitter? Facebook? Infowars? The point is that there is no such thing as a single voice for science or for politics, or media truth and etc

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drlove
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Message 141 of 513 (890393)
01-05-2022 3:17 PM
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01-05-2022 9:53 AM


So fauci and all others should check with you before claiming science? Good luck with that

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drlove
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Message 142 of 513 (890394)
01-05-2022 3:19 PM
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01-05-2022 2:57 AM


Re: belief in the method
Supernatural? I think that means anything beyond what natural knowledge deals with. Maybe like claiming laws break down before the Bib Bang or some such? How would I know all physics ceased to exist any more than I would know that an angel someone saw was real or not?

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drlove
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Message 143 of 513 (890395)
01-05-2022 3:20 PM
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01-05-2022 2:57 AM


Re: belief in the method
Maybe let's hunt one duck at a time

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Message 144 of 513 (890396)
01-05-2022 3:21 PM
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01-05-2022 12:09 PM


Re: Yet Another Attempt To Further reframe my arguments
Just curious. If we completely removed the human element, would there be science or evidence at all?

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drlove
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Message 145 of 513 (890397)
01-05-2022 3:22 PM
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01-05-2022 2:05 PM


Re: Yet Another Attempt To Further reframe my arguments
Some things could never be verified. So should we file all of that under magic, or belief?

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Message 152 of 513 (890404)
01-05-2022 4:55 PM
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01-05-2022 4:33 PM


Re: belief in the method
Hey smelly, change your tone. Or talk to someone else

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Message 153 of 513 (890405)
01-05-2022 4:56 PM
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01-05-2022 4:34 PM


Re: belief in the method
So when no one knows or can test or prove something that is supernatural. Only you reserve the right to call the supernatural science?

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Message 154 of 513 (890406)
01-05-2022 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 148 by Tangle
01-05-2022 4:39 PM


Re: belief in the method
Yet the guy said anyone against him is anti science basically. You are another guy, with something else to say. Do not both Fauci and Malone use the scientific method? So who is to say where it actually applies?

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drlove
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Message 155 of 513 (890407)
01-05-2022 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by jar
01-05-2022 4:54 PM


Re: belief in the method
Is that what you believe?

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drlove
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Message 158 of 513 (890410)
01-05-2022 5:01 PM
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01-05-2022 4:43 PM


Re: belief in the method
Does natural knowledge deal with that time before the laws of physics supposedly applied? If not, would it not be supernatural according to your statements here?

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