Blood in dino bones

Ok. So is it rare or impossible for dino meat in bones to be preserved? Well, since they don't really cut bones open till now, it has been rare. Why, what's your point?

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You see, Mark was talking about the heat of only a few thousand years. He meant that if the heat of the (alleged) accelerated radioactive decay could make it look as though radiometric dating were off by 70 million years, then that would be so much heat that the whole planet would be cooked

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Ahh. OK. But I never envisioned any accelerated radioactive decay at all! If anything, I was saying that how much could happen in only a few thoudand years? (at current rates). I tried to open up a dating thread, but they've held it up at the pass, and won't let it out of propsed topics. So it is difficult to really get into it on a blood and tissue thread. But in a phrase, the isotpes we now see, in their various proportions to each other, were produced, according to my current reasoning of the split, while in the middle of a non decay process! When the split came, the process became a decay process, and whatever was happening no longer is happening. An over simplified analogy might be an escalator. Someone flipped the switch, and it started to go down, instead of up. So measuring how many rungs are coming down how quickly now, and extrapolating that into the far past, beyond even when the escalator was built is of no real value beyond the point it was switched!
So I see no burning of the planet anywhere there. The heat that I noticed they used to base the test on, made me ask about how heat might have affected the results. What kind of heat did I mean? Well, It was a mostly tropical world pre flood, I thought we might have a little more heat to work with. Also, the violence of the flood year, and volcanoes, water shooting up from fountains of the deep etc. More heat to work with. And, lastly, people like walt brown envision some type of violent plate movement, near the flood time, which again, depending on the circumstances, and degree, would provide lots of heat as well. You can see why this stuff is too big to be a sudeline in a dino thread.Anyhow thanks for the mediation. A little detente always helps keep things civilized.

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Do you have any evidence for this? I think there might just be evidence againstthis. For example, woolly mammoths, polar bears and penguins to name three. If it was tropical, where did Noah find his two polar bears and his two pengiuns?

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Good point. Actually, I can't say it was for sure. However, here is why I do think it was.
In the artic, there have been found evidences of a very different and warmer climate at one time. One example, was the (I don't know if I'm spelling this right) champosaurus, a crocodile like creature with the remains of a toad in it's belly.
Now, as to the penguins, I don't know, never thought about that. Perhaps they 'evolved' or adapted from a time when they used to like warmer waters? Now wolly mammoths have been known to be hunted by men, no? I think they may have been post flood? If there were pre flood ones do we know they were not comfortable in warmer climates?
I don't think Noah would have taken artic foxes on board, rather regular foxes who would have branched out to different kinds? I must confess I'm going on memories of creationist ideas, and I could have this wrong."Analysis of the tigers' mitochondrial DNA revealed that all tigers diverged from a common ancestor that lived 72,000-108,000 years ago. "
BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | New sub-species of tiger found !!!!!!!!

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Currently they are all invoking various uniformitarian "miracles" and calling on their various "Gods" to save them from the fact that blood particulate lasting millions of years is illogical at best and a complete fallacy at worst

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Yes, I understood they would find it a challenge. One reason I stsrted the thread, was to watch'm squirm!

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all they are doing is trying to nit-pick at your mistakes.

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Glad you noticed that. But I make less than I used to, and can fend off even the die hard evos much better than I used to, as I learn from sparring with them. Must admit, it's even hard to find anyone who can spar for beans these days. Ha.

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and spend your time convincing your friends/family of the facts in person (it's amazing what a little grass-roots campaigning can do

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I had them pretty well on board without needing to even know much about the depths of maddness of old age reasoning. But I like to get imput, to sharpen up, as I am coming into contact with many who I can teach these last few years, and they had questions.

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). As for radiometric dating - start with a guy named Woodmorappe - they abhor him on this website but he's got some really good information.

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OK, thanks for the tips. Oh, I tried to start a thread on dating, but it was axed by the censors here. So, although I could respond, here The split, and dating | Christian Forums
I'll have to avoid it here.

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"Panel says professor of human origins made up data, plagiarized works"

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Wow, the old frauds are at it again!

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This obviously totally invalidates evolution, while creationism, with its dozens of hoaxes, is correct.

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???? Can you give a few examples, as would be easy for someone to do against evolutionists?

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I suppose you'll explain that by "microevolution" and artificial term used to create a distinction between changes within a species and changes from one species to another.

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My opinion on that is that I don't care what kind of word we apply to the phenomena. As long as it fits in the several thousand year timeframe! I would personall prefer the term "extreme adaptability" -of God's creation.

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We also have evidence that the world was colder than it is now. How can this be? How can it be warmer and colder? How about considering the possibility that at some times it was colder and some times it was warmer.

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I would say the colder part mostly came in after (or during?) the flood. Do we have evidence of colder climates in the cambrian?

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. I think the problem you'll have with this is the time frame you have to allow for all this temperature change to happen

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No problem at all! Violence of the flood year, and subsequent climate changes, I think would cover most of that?