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Author Topic:   An Ether-Based Creation Model
vimesey
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Message 6 of 566 (885437)
04-12-2021 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Michael MD
04-11-2021 12:03 PM


so it was decided to create a quantum macrocosm (our universe.)

Yeah, those bloody quantum particles. Forever unionising and forming committees to decide things. They’re a pain in the arse !


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 92 of 566 (885762)
04-25-2021 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by Son Goku
04-25-2021 3:43 PM


Re: Entanglement
Son Goku, I would dearly love to have an evening over a few drinks with you, learning about the universe. Something tells me that you would be very gifted at leading people to a level of understanding they would so truly appreciate and be grateful for.

(And yes, I've had a few :-)

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Message 96 of 566 (885769)
04-26-2021 4:35 AM
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04-25-2021 6:37 PM


Re: Entanglement
Absolutely ! :-)

(Bit more sober this morning, but always up for a drink and a chat - Covid permitting).


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Message 100 of 566 (885815)
04-27-2021 9:34 AM
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04-27-2021 9:26 AM


Re: Entanglement
Now there's a thought - I think that would be a lot of fun. Raising a glass with people on here would be something I'm pretty sure I would enjoy a great deal

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Message 105 of 566 (885877)
04-28-2021 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by Michael MD
04-28-2021 11:06 AM


Re: Entanglement
Would it surprise you to learn that the language of physics is mathematics and formulae ? E=mc squared and all that.

We have a number of members here who are pretty fluent in that language. Give it a go.

If you don't, you're gonna end up like a native English speaker insisting that a French waiter must converse with him in English - your food is gonna get spat on.


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Message 160 of 566 (887076)
07-07-2021 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 158 by nwr
07-07-2021 9:22 AM


Re: Fair Warning
Science starts with evidence.

Indeed. And it continues with symbols, equations and maths, instead of Mike's constant word salads.

He is mildly amusing, but he could kick up a notch on the comedy meter if he talked about invisible pink ice cream instead of ether. It'd be a bit more of a laugh.


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Message 295 of 566 (888043)
08-31-2021 4:49 AM
Reply to: Message 288 by Michael MD
08-30-2021 8:02 AM


Re: Get Real.
OK, let's see how you fare with this one.

I propose an alternative model - but instead of ether, mine involves Fluffy Invisible Blancmange (or FIB for ease).

Let's see how mine works:

My Creation Model is based on a theory of a universal FIB that underlies the quantum/atomic processes observable to us. Currently, there is a growing body of dissident physics theorists who claim that consensus physics is in error in holding that such a FIB does not exist. -Here, I will not try to go into all the aspects of this theoretical disconnect, but rather I will just present my FIB-based model of creation.

In my Model, any FIB would have to be universal, by its very nature, and it would have had to originate according to a logical sequence of events. I propose that what came first was universal space, a "pure" space, free from everything else, such as forces. Thus, it could have been extremely self-compatible, such that small "localities" within it were reciprocally oscillating. These localities would have probably been of a very tiny size, and conceivably ultimately-minuscule ("point-like.") -Then, "points" adjacent to each other underwent oscillatory fatigue, and formed "Yin and Yang" couplets. (Oscillatory fatigue is a known process. It occurs in metals.) -This transition broke the perfect symmetry of oscillation, so that now there were ultimately-rarified ("elemental") point-like, or "etheric," units, which were now independently vibrating, rather than reciprocally oscillating.

However, this transition would not have been uniform and simultaneous throughout space. Now there were, here and there, couplet-units which would have tended to merge, as their mutual matching vibrations contacted and combined with each other. (The idea here would be that the non-uniformity of this first-causal process would have included some areas where the motion of various units happened to be relatively linear, which would have accelerated the alignments of different units, causing the units to entrain with each other, producing larger and larger units, at first "FIB-like," and then up to the size-scale of quantum units and atoms.

At this point., there would have been multiple fluxes of energy units moving in different directions. Like-to-like resonances would have tended to form confluences, or "islands," where extremely-intense, extremely-rarified, and complex energic processes occurred. Within such an "island," the combinations of energy units could even have produced quantization, and solid moieties. If one such moiety, or body, happened to be roundish in shape (or"cosmic egg" like), then any energic interactions of the body's outer surface with the FIB-like radiations in its surroundings, which happened to be tangential, could have resulted in reverberating circuits of energy around the body, which then could have produced a sapient Entity (ies).

Eventually, the overall ongoing processes would have brought about a "FIB macrocosm." However, the effects of the transient type of magnetism of such a macrocosm upon any quantum bodies at such a quantized "island" would have made things unstable there, so it was decided to create a quantum macrocosm (our universe.) To accomplish this, electron/photons (the smallest and speediest quantum units) were projected, using the intense surrounding energies, toward a "virgin" FIB region, causing the FIB there to undergo a patterned, chain-reactional, transition to quantum units (as the electrons' motion through the FIB aligned the vibrations of FIB units, producing entrainments into larger units. (One effect of the electron/photon unit being used to create the universe would have been that its velocity (the speed of light) would have remained as the highest speed limit in the universe.)

There you go - coincidentally, the same word salad and utter lack of equations, numbers and falsifiable hypotheses as yours - what are the odds ?

The main difference is that my model better explains my slowly expanding stomach.


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Message 301 of 566 (888101)
09-03-2021 6:05 AM
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09-03-2021 3:12 AM


Re: Get Real.
That's kind of what a chap said to me when I received a random call from him, claiming to be from my bank - he wanted my bank account number, and I asked him how he was proposing to verify his identity to me. He rang off pretty quickly after that.

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Message 436 of 566 (891143)
01-19-2022 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 433 by Michael MD
01-19-2022 7:20 AM


Re: You seem to be more confused than I thought.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 498 of 566 (893202)
04-01-2022 2:41 AM
Reply to: Message 497 by Michael MD
04-01-2022 12:22 AM


Re: Powerful Stuff
34 pages of word salad and still no mathematics, still no falsifiable hypothesis, still no equations. You're not gonna get anywhere without them. Give it a go.

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Message 502 of 566 (893215)
04-01-2022 12:25 PM
Reply to: Message 499 by Michael MD
04-01-2022 9:27 AM


Re: Powerful Stuff
If you check back a few pages in this thread, you will see a discussion, wherein I claim to have done original codebreaking work on putatively-otherworldly sets of codes in a historical Document, and that that was the source of the Ether Model.

Well, let me give you another code to crack: sea kelp


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