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Michael MD Member (Idle past 544 days) Posts: 108 Joined: |
Anglagard: This is a reply not to your stating that my Ether Model is not enough to challenge the present consensus in physics, but I notice that you're based in Socorro, NM - mildly coincidental, in that I lived down the road (Rt 60) in Magdalena for almost a year, in 1978, as a doctor in the Indian Health Service.
There were few other MDs in that area back then. (The Hospital Director in Socorro told me that I was "the only thing between here and Arizona.') Mathematics will only be able to be used after a procedure is devised to produce a selectively ether-rich energy field. -One cannot do math on the ether without observations and measurements, and correlating such data. Of course, at present, physics does not even recognize the existence of the ether.
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Michael MD writes: Of course, at present, physics does not even recognize the existence of the ether. There's a good reason for that, similar to the reason for not recognizing the existence of ghosts. --Percy
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Michael MD Member (Idle past 544 days) Posts: 108 Joined: |
One potentially-important aspect of the disconnect between my ether model's version of creation, and the Big Bang model of physics, would be to consider the basic question of "why does our universe contain unit-moieties?"
If one entertains the concept of an ether which (like our quantum world) is composed of separate"units" (rather than being an entirely fluidic ether),then a logical step from there would be that (1) Since any kind of underlying ether would have to be universal, by its very nature, (2) A universal ether, composed of "units," would have arisen first-causally, from ultimately-small (etheric) "elemental" units. These could be termed "unit-moieties," which, through the influence of linear motions of other units, could then align with, and entrain with, other ether units, to form larger and larger-size units, up to the size-scale of quantum units and atoms. Physics now considers that the many quantum-scale units we can observe, likephoton electrons, quarks, etc.) are distinctive, having purposeful roles in nature, such as the Higgs boson, which in current theory represents the key unit in producing a quantum atomic setting, where solid matter or "mass" originated. In my ether model, the very first setting was original universal space,within which a pure type of oscillation of elemental units transitioned to a "second world" composed of vibrationally-interactive elemental units. When someone reports the discovery of a "new particle" discovered in the artificial setting of a physics laboratory, or an accelerator, my reaction is "So what?" -The important question should be, what were the unit-moieties that were involved, naturally, in the first-causal setting. -Until physics recognizes the existence of an ether, such questions will never even be asked.
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Michael MD Member (Idle past 544 days) Posts: 108 Joined: |
I submit that my ether model proposes a much more rational first-causal setting than does the Big Bang theory. In my model, a universal ether arose when a pure type of oscillation within universal original space transitioned, via a Yin and Yang process, to an ether composed predominantly of unimaginably (to us now) small, "elemental," vibrational units, which interact with each other via contact vibration, within a universal underlying ether matrix.
Eventually, etheric radiations produced a local region where radiations happened to be linear, which resulted in a quantally-constituted, sapient, Entity. Following this, a quantum/atomic universe was created by projecting quantum electrons toward a "virgin" ether region. The linear movement of the electrons through the ether caused alignment and entrainment of ether units, which produced larger and larger units via a chain reactional process, such as protons and neutrons. When one hears that a "new kind of particle" has been discovered at an accelerator-collider, my reaction is "So what?" -The important question should be, what were the units involved, naturally, in a first-causal setting?
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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I submit that my ether model proposes a much more rational first-causal setting than does the Big Bang theory.
As best I can tell, you don't have a model. You have not presented any actual model in this thread.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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I submit that my ether model proposes a much more rational first-causal setting than does the Big Bang theory. So, you think you have discovered an important new feature of the Universe that is not only adding to our knowledge, but will over throw everything we have already learned about the Universe? Everyone needs a hobby I guess. All you lack is any detectable evidence or any way to find it. You don't seem to know what a scientific model is.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Michael MD Member (Idle past 544 days) Posts: 108 Joined: |
We have no detectable evidence of the ether because its predominant units are post-first-causal, and first-world-elemental in origin, they are "inter-worldly" in terms of their origin, and so small compared to our quantum/atomic-based abilities to detect, we have not yet been able to pick them up.
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
We have no detectable evidence of the ether ...
The simplest explanation, is that the ether does not exist. If you want to persuade people that it does actually exist, then you have to come up with ways of finding actual detectable evidence. As to the question "Is it science?" -- no, it isn't. Science starts with evidence.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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We have no detectable evidence of the ether And yet, you describe as if you have detected evidence...
quote: You are just a bullshitter.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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vimesey Member (Idle past 95 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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Science starts with evidence. Indeed. And it continues with symbols, equations and maths, instead of Mike's constant word salads. He is mildly amusing, but he could kick up a notch on the comedy meter if he talked about invisible pink ice cream instead of ether. It'd be a bit more of a laugh.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Michael MD Member (Idle past 544 days) Posts: 108 Joined: |
This is getting to be a lengthy Thread, but I described, in one earlier post, having done some codebreaking work, which purported to reveal not only the basic concepts concerning the ether, but also how to go about detecting it using our own kinds of technology. It would be expensive, and I have yet to be able to get it done.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Look, your so-called “ether” theory is a fantasy of your own invention. That’s why it is not in the least rational to prefer it to actual science.
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ringo Member (Idle past 434 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
MichaelMD writes:
Not really. Take a look at the Topics list. We have threads more then ten times as long. This is getting to be a lengthy Thread.... It may seem long to you because you've told us everything you know."I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
This is getting to be a lengthy Thread, but I described, in one earlier post, having done some codebreaking work, which purported to reveal not only the basic concepts concerning the ether, but also how to go about detecting it using our own kinds of technology. I guess you might think it's lengthy since you've been unable to find any support for your fantasy. Prayer and supernatural revelation has a horrible record of explaining anything in the Universe.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Michael,
Michael writes: Phat: If you check back and read my opening Post at page one of the Thread, I presented a fairly lengthy theoretic model for how a first sapient My model went from an initial universal spatial oscillation, to a universal etheric setting consisting of independently-vibrating point-like localities, and then to how quantum/atomic moieties could have arisen within a region where more linear forces happened to exist, and how sapience could have developed in a "cosmic egg" moiety that produced a sapient entity. I see you are just like these posters here. I have been asking for years where whatever it was that the universe was formed from came from? The best answer I have got so far is "We don't know". So I will ask you the same question where did the "Entity could have arisen as part of a first-causal cosmic setting." come from. Better yet is where did it exist? Don't get me wrong. I do believe there is an energy field in which the universe exists. I believe the universe has always existed in some form just not in the form we see it today. I believe in the future it will melt and then be re-created and it will not look like it does today. God Bless, Edited by ICANT, : No reason given."John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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