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Author Topic:   An Ether-Based Creation Model
Percy
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Message 346 of 443 (889441)
11-27-2021 9:20 AM
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11-27-2021 8:30 AM


Re: Get Real.
If you're serious: I nominate you for most clueless of the month.

If you're not: The party's over, it's not funny anymore.

--Percy


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Message 347 of 443 (889445)
11-27-2021 12:12 PM


Poe?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
anglagard
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Message 348 of 443 (889446)
11-27-2021 1:54 PM
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11-27-2021 9:20 AM


Re: Get Real.
I tried to figure out what was going on without judgement, let him know that overturning the standard models of physics is not childsplay, and emphasized the need for models that can predict the future.

I see no indication that Michael MD is serious.


The problem with knowing everything is learning nothing.

If you don't know what you're doing, find someone who does, and do what they do.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 349 of 443 (889447)
11-27-2021 2:45 PM
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11-27-2021 1:54 PM


Re: Get Real.
let him know that overturning the standard models of physics is not childsplay, and emphasized the need for models that can predict the future.

To me, at this point in history, any models would have to include the observations and conclusions that already explain many phenomena in the Universe. It seems improbable that new discoveries will overturn the standard models, rather than expanding or refining them.

I see no indication that Michael MD is serious.

That's a pretty safe bet considering he's mentioned flying saucers and the occult/supernatural gibberish.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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AZPaul3
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Message 350 of 443 (889450)
11-27-2021 4:18 PM


Stupid is.
Michael MD comes across as a typical frustrated Einstein wannabe with a stupid meme stuck in his weak head.

If it's fake then, frankly, I don't care. He insists on being stupid and therefore stupid he is.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

  
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Message 351 of 443 (889451)
11-27-2021 5:47 PM
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11-27-2021 1:54 PM


Re: Get Real.
I see no indication that Michael MD is serious.

I cannot read minds. But I'm inclined to think that Michael MD is being serious -- or at least believes that he is being serious.

We see the absurdity, and we see that his ideas are near vacuous. So we don't take him seriously. He is probably frustrated about that.


Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Tanypteryx
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Message 352 of 443 (889453)
11-27-2021 6:56 PM


I have heard that well known scientists get manuscripts about these crackpot "discoveries" multiple times a week. It is a shame really, all that wasted paper or digital storage.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Michael MD
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Message 353 of 443 (889458)
11-28-2021 8:06 AM
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11-27-2021 8:30 AM


Re: Get Real.
No one could have been witness to any super-rarified mechanism occurring in original space that would have initiated a transition, of elemental units, from symmetrical oscillation to independent vibration, that could have started the ether, so all one can do is speculate on it.

Of course,there is the well-known depiction of "Yin and Yang" showing a pair of teardrop-shaped units joining together.

My speculation there would be that a possible mechanism could have been one where two neighboring symmetrical, likely spherical, units underwent oscillatory fatigue, which disrupted their perfect symmetry, of reciprocal oscillation with all other units, which then distorted them as they moved directionally for the first time. (Oscillatory fatigue is a known process. It occurs in matals, for example.)


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Message 354 of 443 (889459)
11-28-2021 8:37 AM
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11-28-2021 8:06 AM


Learn the basics.
Sheesh.

Learn the basics, really. How can anyone believe anything you say when you can't even get the basics right.

The Yin Yang symbol is two tames, a Megatame. The tame has been used in Taoist & Buddhist iconography for many Milenia. Another example of a Megatame is the US Department of Transportation's logo which is a Megatame of three tames.


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Message 355 of 443 (889460)
11-28-2021 9:40 AM
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11-28-2021 8:37 AM


Re: Learn the basics.
So the US Department of Transportation is responsible for this new sub-quantum etheric aether?

I gotta call you on this one jar. I don't think that's right.


Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 356 of 443 (889462)
11-28-2021 12:05 PM
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11-28-2021 9:40 AM


Re: Learn the basics.
But how else can you account for the Just Outta Time inventory delivery system?

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AZPaul3
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Message 357 of 443 (889463)
11-28-2021 1:32 PM
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11-28-2021 12:05 PM


Re: Learn the basics.
Ok. I haven't an answer for that. You obviously have your stuff together. I leave the field to the victor.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Michael MD
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Message 358 of 443 (889472)
11-29-2021 10:10 AM
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11-27-2021 6:56 PM


To describe how my Ether Model juxtaposes with quantum physics in the case of an energy transmission (light/photonic or electron/electronic).

In my Model, the primary instigator of such transmissions is the ether. My model proposes that as soon as a source of energy is "felt" by the ether matrix, it stimulates units of the ether in the area to interact with that outside stimulus, by forming a vibratory pattern that matches that of the stimulus (photonic or electronic.) This produces a focus of increased energy in the ether, having the same vibratory pattern. In response to an energy stimulus that is linear, as photonic or electronic forces are, the ether units in the area increasingly align with each other, and then entrain, to form larger energy units, such as quantum photons or electrons.

It is possible to detect quantum photons in the trillions in the space near a light transmission. -My model proposes that they all arose from the underlying ether.

Once the quantum size units appear, they are able to interact in the dynamic behavior of quantum physics, involving waves, fields, vectors, and so on. -But the prime instigator of all the observations with energy transmissions is the ether.


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Percy
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Message 359 of 443 (889473)
11-29-2021 10:32 AM
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11-29-2021 10:10 AM


Have you considered the endochronic properties of resublimated thiotimoline?

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : Grammar.


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Tanypteryx
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Message 360 of 443 (889477)
11-29-2021 10:56 AM
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Once the quantum size units appear, they are able to interact in the dynamic behavior of quantum physics, involving waves, fields, vectors, and so on. -But the prime instigator of all the observations with energy transmissions is the ether.

Yeah, but what, exactly, powers the flying saucers?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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