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Tanypteryx
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Message 376 of 443 (889980)
12-19-2021 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 374 by Michael MD
12-19-2021 7:51 AM


Traditional procedures used in quantum physics in settings like a laboratory wouldn't work. You'd have to set up a field test using naturally-occurring materials, in a different kind of setting.

OK, so Professor Plum in the backyard with a pine 2 by 4.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 377 of 443 (889981)
12-19-2021 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 368 by Michael MD
12-18-2021 8:08 AM


I don't know why people don't see your brilliance. Clearly the universal ether matrix is all around us due to first causes while ethereal basic elements changed from alternating independently to contingently pulsating.

Staying within this fundamental structure draws our attention to issues of light spreading and time passage.

Time's qualities are widely disputed, but your fundamental ether proposal establishes the elemental shudderings of the matrix through both internal and external omnipresence.

Emanations theorize in the light of quanta, and some photonic quanta raise issues involving how many sun-filled beams can trillion on their origin in distant energy sources.

Ether model question fitting beams light to follow photonic appearances through etheric propagative sub-models. Radiational energy sources react areally in linear transmissive energies by unitizing alignments quiescently and randomizing the interacting otherizing model-wise. Matching lock-linked up-wise vibrationally creates larger energized unitizements as lighter propagations etherically photonize size scales.

Matrix-minded ethers limits distances to beam conduction lightly. Omniscient ether fluctuates connections to individualize constants imperfectly continuously everywhere because of vibrational travels. Generational photons space through light paths on their way through the cosmos.

I think your theory is all wrapped up in a nice neat package ready for submission to the Academy of Sciences.

--Percy


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Message 378 of 443 (890032)
12-22-2021 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 375 by nwr
12-19-2021 9:25 AM


When I said "you'd have to use a different, or novel, type of field-test," I thought it would logically imply a protocol exists for that kind of test. It would require financial sponsorship, as it would be pretty expensive.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 379 of 443 (890034)
12-22-2021 9:58 AM
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12-22-2021 9:31 AM


The price of 2x4s has gone up during the pandemic.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 380 of 443 (890035)
12-22-2021 10:19 AM
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12-22-2021 9:31 AM


When I said "you'd have to use a different, or novel, type of field-test," I thought it would logically imply a protocol exists for that kind of test.

"Logically implies" does not tell you much at all.

Mathematics logically implies that numbers exist. But numbers don't actually exist. We made them up. And note that I am a professional mathematician (or I was until I retired). So numbers are important to me. But they still don't actually exist.

It would require financial sponsorship, as it would be pretty expensive.

Then you should be out there raising money. And I somehow doubt that any of the evcforum regulars will be making contributions -- especially since you have given no indication on how that money would be spent.

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Message 381 of 443 (890046)
12-22-2021 12:46 PM
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12-22-2021 10:19 AM


Max Tegmark will be upset with you.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 382 of 443 (890057)
12-23-2021 11:24 AM
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12-22-2021 9:31 AM


Michael MD writes:

It would require financial sponsorship, as it would be pretty expensive.


Remind us what "it" is.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 383 of 443 (890097)
12-24-2021 5:29 PM
Reply to: Message 378 by Michael MD
12-22-2021 9:31 AM


In the newest issue (January2022) of Scientific American there is an interesting article, Can We Gauge Quantum Time of Flight? by Anil Ananthaswamy.

You might benefit from reading it and then reading it again. Note how hypotheses are proposed and what different results of experiments might support or reject different predictions. Then compare that to everything you have written here. Do you see the difference?

We already know a whole shitload of things about the Universe, and a part of that knowledge is; we know a lot about the gaps in our knowledge.

Physicists look at what we know with finer and finer resolution and propose solutions and predict what we should see if they are correct, but also what it means if they are incorrect.

They have to have to have a signal or observation or the unexplained absence of an expected signal or observation to investigate.

You have not shown us a single observation, or lack of one, that would convince a physicist to search for your undetected ether or to propose it as the solution to any observed gaps in our knowledge, yet you speak so authoritatively about it as if you have already detected it, or calculated its properties.

You have not been successful at bullshitting any of us, but it looks to us like you have been very successful at bullshitting yourself.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 384 of 443 (890099)
12-24-2021 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 378 by Michael MD
12-22-2021 9:31 AM


^^^ What he said.


Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 385 of 443 (890236)
12-30-2021 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 377 by Percy
12-19-2021 11:01 AM


Percy,
Not sure if your Post and suggestion to submit my material to the Academy of Sciences was intended seriously, but it is an extensive website. If you happen to know of a specific, likely-receptive, pathway there I might try submitting to, kindly let me know.

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Message 386 of 443 (890237)
12-30-2021 8:07 AM
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12-19-2021 9:25 AM


I'm surprised no one has not suggested simply using the existing ETHER net to test his theories.

Hell, we have been using and perfecting that net for decades; it's time to actually put it to its intended purpose.

Afterall Why Fie?


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Message 387 of 443 (890238)
12-30-2021 9:35 AM
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12-30-2021 8:07 AM


jar,

"Ether" net, as developed in our transmissional technologies, is unrelated to the "ether" as described in my ether-model. Ether net was begun in the 1970s and borrowed the term "ether" from theories in the 1800s which were based on theories and hypotheses of the possible existence of a so-called "luminiferous" ether. That concept of ether was set back after Michelson and Morley's famous optics-based experiment, putatively intended to detect "any kind of ether" in 1887, produced a negative result, after which physics dismissed the ether-concept, and purely-quantum physics, plus relativity, were officially adopted.

In my Ether Model, a universal ether matrix exists which comprises vanishingly-minuscule, elemental, vibrating, ether units. This kind of ether is unrelated to the usage of the term "ether" in "ether-net." There, much-larger quantum-scale forces are transmitted, as (in one technique) wire fibers are subjected to manipulations such as twisting, to refine the transmissions. Looking at this from the perspective of the kinds of forces existing in the ether in my Ether Model, there is no comparison to the refinement of ether forces that would be possible using "the real" ether.


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Message 388 of 443 (890239)
12-30-2021 9:43 AM
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12-30-2021 9:35 AM


Learn the basics child.

Bird nets catch birds.

Fish nets catch fish.

ETHER nets catch ether.

Surely even you should be able to understand that much.


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Message 389 of 443 (890240)
12-30-2021 10:31 AM


This is either Poe or autism. For kindness sake we really need to know.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 390 of 443 (890278)
12-31-2021 9:46 AM
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12-30-2021 7:46 AM


Your original uncyclical attempts researching etheric classical luminosity undermine elucidations liquidating ephemeral standard systematics.

--Percy


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