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Message 5 of 112 (885601)
04-20-2021 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Tanypteryx
04-18-2021 10:55 PM


Re: Astronomy
Sounds suspiciously like a human-centric quantifiable universe...dare I say multiverse. This whole math thing is no replacement for woo.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 95 of 112 (888909)
10-22-2021 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Tanypteryx
10-21-2021 8:50 PM


Re: Planetary Defense
Tanypteryx writes:

We are making no effort to mitigate the tsunami of human-caused disasters that are right here looming where we can see and touch them. The Earth's ecosystems are collapsing and we've had decades of warnings and humanity is plugging their ears.

I'm noting that you understand that humans know what to do and yet do not address it. At work during my Smalltalk sessions with my customers, I mention that life has gone on pretty much stable and comfortable for many decades. I quip to them that if the Far Right is correct, we will have to deal with a spiritual apocalypse and if the secular intellectuals are right, it will be global warming and possibly other apocalyptic (or at best) societally changing events. I fear that people of either political ideology won't listen until it's too late.(Or if ever) I turn on the news less now.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 98 of 112 (888917)
10-23-2021 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by nwr
10-22-2021 5:53 PM


Re: Planetary Defense
First of all, you are stereotyping Christians. (SOME not ALL)

Second of all, "bullshit religious issues" won't go away. Nor will religion being mixed with politics. Our challenge as critics and supporters is to find consensus.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003


Message 108 of 112 (888972)
10-27-2021 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by jar
10-25-2021 2:05 PM


Re: Planetary Defense
We also need to watch out for false prophets who claim that God and Jesus are human-created characters in a book and that one can be a good Christian simply by being an empathetic humanist.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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