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Author Topic:   Who's the bigger offender: Conservatives or Liberals?
Sarah Bellum
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Message 203 of 773 (887121)
07-11-2021 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 171 by ringo
06-24-2021 12:19 PM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
Almost every philosophy has some good points. Marx saw the oppressed workers that others had "let fall by the wayside." Islam talks of giving alms and "Thou shalt not kill" and all that. Even the Nazis built some roads and ran a national healthcare system.
Liberal and conservative both have sound ideas (and some not-so-sound ones). The trick of representative government in a free society is to get more of the good and less of the bad. Somehow.
As for that "feeding the children", don't you mean, instead, to describe the point of view that children should be fed by the national "family" even if their real family can't afford it?

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Message 243 of 773 (887428)
08-03-2021 7:59 AM
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07-12-2021 10:34 AM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
Thinking that "transcends nationalism" is not an easy thing to come by. Socialism ("Workers of the world unite!") was no match for forces like those that tore apart the USSR. Even religion can't compete (unless it means leaving nations in ruins, like the islamists of the Taliban or Boko Haram): just look at President Biden proclaiming himself a Catholic while turning up his nose at their pro-life dogma.

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Message 244 of 773 (887429)
08-03-2021 8:07 AM
Reply to: Message 208 by ringo
07-12-2021 12:10 PM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
Oh, I quite agree, we should strive for a society where the ambulance comes for those who are sick or injured, the food is there for those who are down on their luck and the people screaming at their demons in the public square are taken to institutions for medical care rather than penal incarceration or, worse, simply allowed to keep screaming because it is one of their "civil rights" to do so. I'm sure you can think of many other such examples.
But somehow our society manages to combine the worst of "liberal" and "conservative" thinking on issues like these.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 333 of 773 (888126)
09-05-2021 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 247 by ringo
08-03-2021 12:10 PM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
On the other hand there's the James Carville philosophy that the only thing in the middle of the road is yellow lines and dead armadillos.
There's something to that: thinking that there's some sort of ideal "third way" somehow splitting the difference between opposing ideas often runs into gridlock (or worse). Imagine Abraham Lincoln "compromising" with Jefferson Davis, or Lyndon Johnson "compromising" with Ho Chi Minh or Ronald Reagan "compromising" with Mikhail Gorbachev or Joe Biden "compromising" with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 343 of 773 (889377)
11-21-2021 1:16 PM
Reply to: Message 334 by ringo
09-05-2021 2:13 PM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
That's the misconception from the movie The Program that got some real people killed Not Like the Movie: A Dare Leads to Death - The New York Times

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Message 344 of 773 (889378)
11-21-2021 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 335 by AZPaul3
09-05-2021 4:31 PM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
True

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Message 551 of 773 (890146)
12-27-2021 6:50 PM
Reply to: Message 345 by ringo
11-23-2021 11:15 AM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
Sigh.
Apparently I didn't extensively document an offhand pop culture reference.
Oh, well.

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Message 586 of 773 (891411)
01-29-2022 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 555 by ringo
12-28-2021 11:06 AM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
Hey, I made an offhand remark that you seized upon to manufacture a reason to waste time and bandwidth.
Just let it go, boy!

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Message 601 of 773 (892332)
03-05-2022 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 588 by Theodoric
01-29-2022 4:04 PM


Re: A classic self-own
So . . . what? From you it's psychobabble now?

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 602 of 773 (892335)
03-05-2022 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 589 by ringo
01-31-2022 10:43 AM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
Ringo was embarrassed out of ignorance of some random tidbit of pop culture. So Ringo threw a hissy fit.
Wow.
I can't imagine what would happen to Ringo's head if Ringo were discovered to be ignorant of something substantive. Maybe an explosion like something out of Scanners?
Oh. Dear. Another pop culture reference . . .

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Message 756 of 773 (893840)
04-21-2022 8:38 AM
Reply to: Message 606 by Phat
03-08-2022 2:09 PM


Re: A classic self-own
Moving on is definitely a good idea. I've noticed activity is picking up in one of the evolution/creationism threads and that, after all, was the starting point of this website, wasn't it?

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