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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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quote: I think that we can say that the person who tried to suggest that the restrictions on wood burning stoves was a response to global warming - and that the reason was the heat they give out - is unable to judge the intelligence. Message 633 quote: I didn’t say any such thing. I said instead that “conservative” speech was filled with falsehood, hostility and intolerance. Which seems rather likely to produce a negative reaction in those targeted.And it’s also the sort of speech that is poison to an online community. It’s in the interest of the companies hosting those communities to deal with the troublemakers. quote: Parler wasn’t forbidden from using the internet. Parler was forbidden from using computers owned by Amazon - for repeated violations of the Terms of Use. Again, you have no right to use other people’s property without their agreement. That is not censorship. Nor is Amazon an arm of the Democratic Party.
quote: Then perhaps you can show me evidence of this coup attempt and that Maxine Waters spread disinformation that lead to it.
quote: COVID is a rather nasty illness that has killed a lot of people. Faith was promoting the use of hydroxychloroquine to treat it. A dangerous drug that doesn’t even work. If it was fear of what she was saying, why wasn’t she banned much earlier? It makes no sense.
quote: Obviously people suffering ill effects - or even death - due to use or misuse of hydroxychloroquine.
quote: That doesn’t even make sense. But even if it did, assuming multiple time dimensions isn’t even theistic. So not assuming them can hardly be atheistic (and in fact assuming them without solid scientific evidence would be unscientific). So we have established that I was correct. Creationists try to put their religion in science classes because they object to the science. Of course, even if a teacher was actually teaching that there was no God reacting to it by trying to take over parts of the science curriculum is in no way a sensible answer. Nor even a proportionate one. So that’s a good example of conservatives being worse than liberals.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
quote: No, it wasn’t shown to be either a lie or a conspiracy theory. Manafort did have improper contact with the Russians. The Trump Tower meeting happened. The Russians were behind the DNC hack and the release of the documents. It turned out that Mueller didn’t find that things had gone far enough for charges, but there was enough to justify investigation.
quote: Because there are no reasonable grounds for suspicion, and because the recounts and audits didn’t find any serious problems. When the supposed evidence has been looked at, it hasn’t needed any more investigation. We don’t need to seriously consider a report that compares voting figures from one State with population figures from another, or pay much attention to an “expert” report from a “Military Intelligence Analysts” who flunked the basic training for that position.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
quote: It was.
quote: Mail in voting certainly was checked in the audits. And again, where is the evidence that would justify an investigation? Should we start with the Republican Party in California with their fake boxes for collecting ballots?
quote: You mean that the incredibly suspect story about the laptop? Where the hard drive just happened to get sent to Rudy Giuliani - who sat on it for months?
quote: I’d like to see the question that was asked for that poll. But certainly the story got out - we all heard about it. But it was an obvious dirty trick.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
quote: That doesn’t change the fact that you have no idea what you were talking about. You can’t discuss the restrictions sensibly without understanding the reasons for them.
quote: The more interesting question there is what is the impact on climate from those uses. Using oil as a raw material for producing plastics or artificial fibres is not obviously going to have the same effects as burning it.
quote: So, no actual coup attempt. And since that was a very I prtant part of Trump’s ban, the equivalence isn’t there. Trump got a lot of tolerance, too.
quote: And yet Percy still had valid reasons for the ban that are not directed at conservatism. Or even “conservatism” (that is pretty intolerant of conservative speech as Liz Cheney is finding out).
quote: No, it didn’t make sense. And just saying that there must be more doesn’t give any reason to believe that the Earth isn’t billions of years old. Let alone that accepting that age is atheistic which is the real issue. Hinduism teaches that the Earth is even older. Does that make Hindus atheists? It’s absurd.
quote: Sure it does. The only way atheism could be taught in schools is a teacher teaching that there was no God. Creationists did try to inject their religious beliefs into science classes. You say that it is because atheism was being taught. See above. If an individual is breaking the law the correct response is to use the legal system to stop them. Not to use political means to get government support for a larger and more widely spread violation of the law.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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In Message 667 he claimed that the 10th Amendment governed science. This is an outright falsehood. (The 10th Amendment is about the division of power between the Federal Government and the States).
It seems that he can’t tell the difference between the Federalist Letters which he cited in the earlier Message 659 and the Constitution. But while very useful for interpreting the Constitution the Federalist letters do not in themselves have any legal force. It gets worse. His quote of Federalist Papers 10 was a misrepresentation. Climate scientists are not acting as a “faction” in the way Federalist Papers 10 sees as a problem. Nor is finding out facts Marc wants suppressed “mischief” in the sense intended. Worse still, Federalist Papers 10 did not advocate government control of “factions” as a solution. The fact is that Marc wants political control of the findings of science. Which is totalitarian to the core. He claims constitutional authority but never offers any Article or Amendment that would support his claim. Only a misrepresentation of a document which is not a part of the Constitution - or any lesser part of the law.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
quote: Don’t forget Is science atheism?, started to respond to some of your other assertions.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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I doubt very much that either qualifies as “good”. Prager U is a (very) right-wing propaganda outfit.
But thanks for providing the proof that you are not a moderate.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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So he admits that white privileged exists, but then insists that admitting it is somehow accusing all white people of “a collective crime”. It isn’t. It’s simply recognising the fact that due to current and past racism, being white is an advantage. And to call that ‘racist” is an obvious reversal of the truth.
A smear is not a rational argument.
quote: If you agree than I hope that you can support his assertions - you certainly don’t quote anything that does. Or are his claims as false as your assertion that we have no answer?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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quote: No, they don’t. When the Right talks about freedom it’s only to get what they want. Freedom goes out the window whenever it gets in their way.
quote: That pretty much defines the leadership of the US Right. The amount of grifting is colossal.
quote: I’m sure the many Christians in the Left would disagree.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Currency valuation is a double-edged sword. China was attacked for keeping it’s currency artificially low.
A strong currency brings cheap imports but makes locally produced goods less competitive - which hurts exports and jobs.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
That China was attacked for keeping it’s currency artificially low is a fact. Whether the attacks were true is another matter.
The important issue is that a weak currency was seen as an economic advantage.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
quote: All of which is irrelevant to my point (including the parts not quoted),
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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That’s completely missing the point. The point is that currency valuations are not so simple as high = good. There are pluses and minuses.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
Don’t mention the Jubilee. Or what the Bible says about usury. It might make Phat’s head explode!
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PaulK Member Posts: 17914 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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quote: I don’t think that is at all true. To me the main point is that you think that God is an idiot who says nothing worth listening to.Jar and Ringo are just trying to get you to listen to the message.
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