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Phat
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Message 193 of 773 (887087)
07-09-2021 7:10 AM
Reply to: Message 192 by ringo
07-07-2021 12:17 PM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
Much of my argumentation is an addictive pattern of whining. I get caught up in poking the lion with a stick.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 195 of 773 (887091)
07-09-2021 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 194 by ringo
07-09-2021 12:26 PM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
So stop doing that. Debate honestly.
OK but i might point out that being squeezed by the global population from the already spartan lifestyle which i now enjoy concerns and irritates me greatly. You don't wanna see me angry!
If i dont get enough after my best attempts at forming consensus with the world then I /we will blow something up versus being humiliated and squeezed.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 197 of 773 (887093)
07-10-2021 1:55 AM
Reply to: Message 196 by Tangle
07-09-2021 3:48 PM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
How Christian. Is that something Jesus revealed to you in your long conversations?
Of course not! But the fact is, the educated class would rather support a global meritocracy rather than taking care of their own people. This is why globalism potentially sucks.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 205 of 773 (887126)
07-12-2021 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by Sarah Bellum
07-11-2021 5:23 PM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
The problem is, that sort of thinking will transcend Nationalism and be mandatory everywhere on the planet. Not that it isn't a morally altruistic idea...the issue will be the mandatory part.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003


Message 206 of 773 (887127)
07-12-2021 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by ringo
07-10-2021 10:21 AM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
I know I know...the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one!
As I said above, the problem begins when a global consensus makes it mandatory. Government becomes our master rather than our slave.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 207 of 773 (887128)
07-12-2021 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 199 by vimesey
07-10-2021 4:14 AM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
The so-called "global elite" are the invisible enemy which the evil right-wing thugs at the top of the totem pole have invented to sell to the people near the bottom of the totem pole, whose votes they need (at least until they succeed in destroying democracy).
Translation: Right-Wing Thugs = the wealthy 1%. Did it ever occur to you that there are also Left Wing thugs who wish there to be a global consensus? They aren't poor either. They want mandatory global cooperation at the expense of free enterprise.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003


Message 213 of 773 (887137)
07-12-2021 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 209 by ringo
07-12-2021 12:13 PM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
t's already mandatory, according to Jesus. Mistreat the least of these and He doesn't know you.
And you don't even believe in Jesus. You just use His massages to support your pet globalism, which mandates that the rich MUST feed the poor...damn the bill. In essence, you think that a global government should control global money for the interests of all.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003


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Message 214 of 773 (887138)
07-13-2021 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 212 by xongsmith
07-12-2021 11:49 PM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
xongsmith writes:
Let's get a list going:
alive Left-wing thugs:
1) Mark Zuckerberg
Wiki writes:
Zuckerberg has never revealed his own political affiliation or voting history: some news outlets consider him to be a conservative,[150] while others consider him liberal.[151]
2) Jeff Bezos
Wiki writes:
According to public campaign finance records, Bezos supported the electoral campaigns of Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell, two Democratic U.S. senators from Washington. He has also supported Democrats U.S. representative John Conyers, as well as Patrick Leahy and Republican Spencer Abraham, U.S. senators serving on committees dealing with Internet-related issues.[243] Jeff Bezos and MacKenzie Bezos have supported the legalization of same-sex marriage, and in 2012 contributed $2.5 million to Washington United for Marriage, a group supporting a yes vote on Washington Referendum 74, which affirmed a same-sex marriage law enacted in the state.[244] Bezos donated $100,000 towards a movement against a Washington state income tax in 2010 for "top earners".[243] In 2012, he donated to Amazon's political action committee (PAC),[243] which has given $56,000 and $74,500 to Democrats and Republicans, respectively.[245]
3) ... Im sure I can find 5 more.
xongsmith writes:
I'll take mandatory global COOPERATION over unbridled free enterprise any day. And are you implying that the right-wing thugs wish some kind of global consensus? Maybe a consensus in their boardrooms...
Right Wing Thugs attempt consensus in global trade and matters of commerce. Left Wing Thugs attempt global consensus in matters of power and control. They are more likely to attempt to arrive at a One World Government rather than the Right are. The Right only wants a One World Commerce.
And to think you guys thought that the Christian End-times scenarios were a joke! Call it a self-fulfilling prophecy, but I can see the conflicts building up. Nobody wants war, but many will not settle for a global morality (mandatory global tax) at the expense of free enterprise.
And ringo, Jesus may have initially advocated it, but the humans who will be implementing and running it are far far removed from Him.
The Right-Wing guys may be greedier for money than the Left, but the Left has this delusion that they are global morality cops and rightfully powerful.
Find something wrong with the ideology of the late Dr.Milton Friedman and then we can talk.
Edited by Phat, : clarification

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003


Message 216 of 773 (887140)
07-13-2021 7:53 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by xongsmith
07-13-2021 7:43 AM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
Dont you get it? Its the minions who are ultimately the Left Wing Thugs. Ordinary wee little bureaucrats who thirst for power and control. Money is not their downfall. (Note I edited Post 214)
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Joined: 12-30-2003


Message 217 of 773 (887141)
07-13-2021 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 215 by xongsmith
07-13-2021 7:43 AM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
xongsmith writes:
sounds like he's playing both sides to hedge his bets, with the Republicans getting more - hardly a left-wing thug. He pays his minions the minimum wage - hardly what a left-wing thug would do, but tight up the alley of a right-wing thug.
That makes sense. A Left-Leaning CEO would pay more since he likely uses his minions to manage his company. A Right Leaning CEO would fire people because he could care less about them. Its all about money...morality is an inconvenient truth to them.
Now, my 2 examples are known, thugs. Rupert with his damaging steady stream of vicious lies and Mitch with his "damn what better for the country's health, it's my money-making schemes and my racist, misogynist Party first".
As a moderate, Im not convinced that the conservatives c an be pigeonholed into being racist and misogynistic as a group...though Trump certainly was as have been others. Its not so much that they hate minority classes...its that they don't want to be dictated by the progressive Left.
I'll grant you that Zuckerburg does a lot of bad things, but it's all for free and we can go somewhere else if we want (like here). I don't know what he pays his minions
Like I said, all the minions want is power and political clout if they are Left Wing. If they are Right Wing they will kiss ass to get bigger paychecks.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 221 of 773 (887146)
07-13-2021 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by ringo
07-13-2021 12:34 PM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
Just out of curiosity I have two questions. I don't mean to get too personal, but context helps.
1) Why do you sit outside the library? Why don't you go in?
2) If your house was sold/repossessed/taken by family, does that make YOU homeless or do you have a place to stay?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 224 of 773 (887154)
07-15-2021 1:27 AM
Reply to: Message 223 by dwise1
07-13-2021 3:16 PM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
Absolutely bizarre in your divorce from reality. And why have you still not yet read The Authoritarians by now-retired psych prof Bob Altemeyer? You are very clearly displaying your ignorance of the subject matter of authoritarianism.
I never studied the book in detail and am glad that you called me out on my ignorance. I respected the conclusions of that author and probably should pay better attention. I'll note that I observe that when I go off on rants, I usually argue more from emotion rather than logic.
I dont like that word. (Thugs) Lets replace it with Upper Political or Upper Corporate Management. What Im trying to argue is that in general, as I said earlier, (correcting my descriptions somewhat)
Right Wing Leaders attempt consensus in global trade and matters of commerce. Left Wing Leaders attempt global consensus in matters of power and control. They are more likely to attempt to arrive at a One World Government rather than the Right are. The Right only wants a One World Commerce.
Now to be fair, I might elaborate. The Right would run the planet only to keep the Left from doing so. They dont like to have to adjust their emotional views on things so much. They just want business as usual. Jonathan Haidt elaborates furtherin his book, The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion
quote:
Authoritarian followers usually support the established authorities in their society, such as government officials and traditional religious leaders. Such people have historically been the “proper” authorities in life, the time-honored, entitled, customary leaders, and that means a lot to most authoritarians. Psychologically these followers have personalities featuring:
  1. ) a high degree of submission to the established, legitimate authorities in their society;
  2. ) high levels of aggression in the name of their authorities; and
  3. ) a high level of conventionalism.

I also like the way that you thoroughly explain things as you make your arguments.
I lean a bit to the right because they advocate freedom more than humanism. Granted it can be a refuge for the greedy and the selfish, but I would assert that the Left Wing is a refuge for humanists who don't believe in a power higher than themselves.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 226 of 773 (887156)
07-15-2021 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 225 by ringo
07-15-2021 12:08 PM


Re: In Essence You Support A Meritocracy
We don't need a refuge.
Ye shall be as gods. evidence based humanists
The man in the book knows who you are.
Keep giving away spare change and telling people stories and He likely will easily accept you and overlook that you never believed in Him but only in His message.
I, on the other hand, may have more trouble convincing Him of my worthiness. Perhaps if you put in a prayer on my behalf....
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 237 of 773 (887225)
07-26-2021 4:01 AM
Reply to: Message 236 by PaulK
07-26-2021 2:01 AM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
All I know is that China has more gold than the US, though not officially. The metals are far from dead. The dollar is and has been supported through the oppression of the metals' true levels. Fiat currency temporarily dethroned Gold, as tries Crypto, but the Discipline of Gold and Silver will prevail in the end. Unless Ringo is right and Sardine cans become the global medium of exchange.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 238 of 773 (887226)
07-26-2021 4:07 AM
Reply to: Message 233 by LamarkNewAge
07-26-2021 12:17 AM


Re: Wannabe Conservative Thinkers
LNA writes:
Frankly I always felt China had a supernaturally too strong currency.
Hmmm. Supernaturally?? Do explain.
I've listened to a lot of opinions from Loons and respectable people alike on the coming Gold and Silver Discipline over the global fiat currencies. The evidence is abundant. Every time, the Dollar devalues and Gold goes up.
They keep the prices down to protect the dollar's status.
They won't be able to stop Silver, however...though JP Morgan has a huge stash themselves.
The only pretender to the next safe haven is cryptos, though I'd take silver over them any day. Despite the claims, they can be tracked.
Once the currency reset happens, the metals can be unloaded and the new digital currency can be purchased perhaps...though I'm not sure I trust my assets being potentially monitored. The stocks will correct soon, and anyone with assets better be prepared for at least a 30% drop while the metals will appreciate by at least 30%. You all heard it here first. Lord Jesus slap me if I'm wrong.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
- Criss Jami, Killo

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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