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Message 679 of 773 (892688)
03-12-2022 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 678 by ringo
03-12-2022 11:24 AM


Re: R E S P E C T
Almost every member of the public who came through asked me where they could get the glassware.
Yeah, I got my glassware a few years ago when I was making wine from a bumper crop of Asian pears. I ended up with a really nice pear brandy, but my wife really objected to my project taking over her kitchen. At the time there was a fairly active online community of amateur distillers.
In high school our still was much simpler, just a straight glass tube for a water jacket with a smaller tube held in place with rubber stoppers. We got Vicks Formula 44 cough syrup and pour out the syrup and filled it with our 190 proof apricot brandy, the residue cough syrup added a little flavor. We sold it for $5 a bottle to our classmates. Of course they had to dilute it with coke or something. Had a thriving business my junior and senior years.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 683 of 773 (892695)
03-12-2022 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 681 by AZPaul3
03-12-2022 12:08 PM


Re: Ack!
I've had Everclear 190. Use it as a mix-drink base. Just once I had to take a shot.
I use Everclear to make dilutions, usually 80% to store aquatic insect specimens.
I have never taken a shot of anything more the 151 rum, just enough of the 190 to wet the inside of my mouth and that was enough. I'm sure most of my high school customers tried the straight stuff too. Alcohol can be deadly if misused.
These days I just have sips of something flavorful a couple times a month, usually a nice tawny port.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 684 of 773 (892697)
03-12-2022 1:17 PM
Reply to: Message 682 by dwise1
03-12-2022 12:28 PM


Re: R E S P E C T
I did a lot of library research in high school about the techniques of making many of the common forms of alcohol. It was the subject of an English class oral report (my English teacher was married to my chemistry teacher, so I lost easy access to supplies after that).
On the technical side, I'd been contemplating phase changes. When boiling a liquid, after it reaches its boiling point then the liquid stops getting hotter since all additional heat just converts more of the liquid to vapor more quickly thus holding the liquid at the boiling point.
My countertop distillation apparatus is set up with a calibrated thermometer so I can monitor when each fraction comes off. The solution stays at 148.5F while the methanol is boiling, when the temperature gets to 173F I know the ethanol is coming off. I discard everything that comes off before 173F. Then I redistill the distillate to remove any residual methanol.
I use distilled water and other flavoring ingredients to dilute the final distillate down to a drinkable level. I have always preferred wines from other fruits rather than grapes to make brandy, mine are more like cordials.
When I was old enough to legally buy alcohol one of the first liquors I tried was Hiram Walker's Apricot Cordial. It was only 30% but perfect for sipping after dinner. It had almost a caramelly odor and flavor. They don't sell it in Oregon anymore, but I found some in Chicago on my trip last summer. It's now called apricot brandy, but it is the same smell and taste that transports me back to 1968.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 690 of 773 (892726)
03-12-2022 4:11 PM
Reply to: Message 689 by Phat
03-12-2022 3:53 PM


Re: R E S P E C T
Phat writes:
Theodoric writes:
You do realize precious metals fluctuate in value and do not always increase in value, don't you?
Of course! And mark my words....they will be valuable n this next global reset/depression.
More valuable than now? Why? Who will want them? And will the value be $1997 or $43 or 10 loaves of bread per ounce?
It seems to me that the only people who would value them are buyers, but what will they use to pay for them?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 692 of 773 (892729)
03-12-2022 4:27 PM
Reply to: Message 685 by dwise1
03-12-2022 3:38 PM


Re: R E S P E C T
Personally, I never went through a bar phase so I never learned mixed drinks. Instead, my drinking is normally ale, red wine, or straight tequila, scotch (single-malt Islay), or bourbon.
My dad was a Scotch drinker so i developed a taste for single malts also, but I drink so little these days that I have several partial bottles that are over 10 years old (since they were opened).
In my early 20s I did the bar scene and tried lots of mixed drinks. Singapore Slings were one of my favorites but they were wicked.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 697 of 773 (892749)
03-13-2022 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 696 by Percy
03-13-2022 11:03 AM


Re: R E S P E C T
What I think you're seeing is what a damaged brain does, weave together fragments of uncorrelated and unfiltered information and feelings from different brain regions. Feelings of paranoia, euphoria and infallibility become all mixed together.
I think you are probably correct. Plus being socially isolated while at the same time being a frontline worker through the pandemic has to have had an effect also.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 704 of 773 (892779)
03-13-2022 9:21 PM
Reply to: Message 701 by Phat
03-13-2022 3:40 PM


Re: R E S P E C T
Well, thanks for giving it a go. I'm still no wiser to the function of gold as anything more than a placeholder. The artificial scarcity induced over valuation just looks like a marketing scam the same as that with diamonds. Like they say, there's a sucker born every minute.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 713 of 773 (892798)
03-14-2022 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 711 by ringo
03-14-2022 11:56 AM


Re: R E S P E C T
Some friends of mine talked the bartender into making us pitchers of zombies.
The one I could never figure out, was why anyone would ever drink a martini. I would rather drink Panther Piss!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 716 of 773 (892804)
03-14-2022 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 714 by Theodoric
03-14-2022 12:39 PM


Re: R E S P E C T
My grandfather owned a country store in a tiny ranching community in Oregon's high desert country and he used to sell sugar to the moonshiners during prohibition. Apparently there were hidden stills scattered all over that region. He said their product was mostly gin using the native juniper berries for flavoring. My mom said they would come in the middle of the night and buy wagonloads of sugar.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 718 of 773 (892806)
03-14-2022 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 717 by dwise1
03-14-2022 1:15 PM


Re: R E S P E C T
I tried a Rusty Nail once, Drambuie and Scotch. Pretty yucky!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 723 of 773 (892876)
03-16-2022 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 722 by Phat
03-15-2022 9:22 AM


Re: Conservatives, Liberals, and a Secular Future
And FYI, Alcohol likely will be as good of an investment as gold, but keep in mind that Hops is a commodity too.
Hops are used in beer and ale, but not in distilled spirits. I think it will be the latter that has high value after the apocalypse.
An Apocolypse is coming be it sacred or secular.
Sacred or secular? What does that even mean?
You do know that once inflation really begins to wreck our economy, the ignorant masses will blame Biden rather than the real villain--the Federal Reserve.
You do know that what you call inflation is prices going up because of scarcity of some commodities because of disrupted production and supply lines caused by a global pandemic and now a war in Ukraine, and not by debt, don't you?
The Federal Reserve will be unable to stop inflation, but they won't care. They will defend the dollar--even against Gold.
What the hell does this even mean?
I fear that the Liberals are less worried about exponentially increasing debt.
I realize you are using exponentially increasing debt as scary words to make some obscure point, but do you even know what exponential growth is or how it applies to debt?
f(x)=a(1+r)^{x}
f(x) = exponential growth function
a = initial amount
r = growth rate
{x} = number of time intervals
In their defense, however, I believe that if Gold goes up relative to the dollar, Conservatives will welcome it more than Liberals.
I assume anyone who sells their gold for a profit will welcome it, but I cannot imagine the mindset of anyone who buys that gold.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 725 of 773 (892878)
03-16-2022 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 724 by nwr
03-16-2022 1:21 PM


Re: Conservatives, Liberals, and a Secular Future
nwr writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
but I cannot imagine the mindset of anyone who buys that gold.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
And gambling is an addiction that addicts go to great lengths to rationalize.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Tanypteryx
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Message 727 of 773 (892885)
03-17-2022 12:28 AM
Reply to: Message 726 by Minnemooseus
03-17-2022 12:09 AM


Re: Conservatives, Liberals, and a Secular Future
That and/or someone who has more money that he knows what to do with. "What the hell, I might as well buy a bunch of pretty metal."
Just because he's rich doesn't mean he's not a fool. Look at Trump shitting in a gold toilet thinking it made him special.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 729 of 773 (892908)
03-18-2022 10:57 AM
Reply to: Message 728 by Phat
03-18-2022 3:55 AM


Re: Conservatives, Liberals, and a Secular Future
So you don't see the gold buying as gambling, but your reasoning looks like rationalization to me.
I have no idea what the rest of your post means, except that you don't seem to have a clue what conservatives or liberals support.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 734 of 773 (893371)
04-08-2022 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 733 by Phat
04-08-2022 4:07 PM


Re: Phat and gold
Also from your source:
quote:
The Russian ruble's near complete recovery in recent weeks is not a signal that the Russian economy is weathering the sanctions Washington and its allies have imposed since Russia invaded Ukraine, U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said on Wednesday.
The Russian economy is "reeling" from the sanctions imposed after the late February invasion, Yellen told the House Financial Services Committee. The market for rubles has become so distorted by actions of the Russian government and its central bank to limit capital outflows that "you should not infer anything" from the value of the ruble, which fell to a record low against the U.S. dollar immediately after the invasion but has since retraced most of those losses.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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