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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.5 |
So you have two, compared to countless thousands of qualified blacks who didn't a hearing.
You specifically said:
quote: Not qualified applicants.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Percy Member Posts: 22934 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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Phat writes: I am in favor of spreading the wealth equally among the people... That would be redistribution of wealth. You won't find any conservatives in favor of this.
...rather than helping Blacks, Indians, and other marginalized groups. Jesus:Mark 10:21: "You lack one thing: go, sell all that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me." Phat:"They will simply waste the money." Either you're neither a conservative nor a follower of Jesus, or you're so confused you can't get either's philosophy straight. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22934 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
What is it that you think you're proving by presenting examples of misapplication of affirmative action.
I think I saw a couple movies about you the other day:
I don't think I've ever seen such a pronounced personality change. A year or two ago people would have called you one of the sweetest guys on the site. Now they might call you confused, lost, soulless. Here's hoping you find some Christian charity in your heart. Treat an Arapaho to dinner - after all, you're living on their land. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22934 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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Tanypteryx writes: You specifically said:
quote: Not qualified applicants. Plus quotas were ruled unconstitutional nearly twenty years ago. Affirmative action will remain necessary as long as there's racism. --Percy
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
I know that you will jump on me for posting this video, but I think that Fox News is spot-on in its assessment of the looting situation in San Francisco. California made several mistakes.
Of course, a lot of you will say that Fox News portrays the ideological battle between conservatives and liberals in a clearly biased fashion. Ringo will bray on about helping the "least of these" as if people committing criminal acts are simply victims of a racist society. The policeman from NYC is spot on in his assessment. California may be "woke" but they soon will be broke. And yes, I know that money is not the issue...blah blah blah. To be honest, I know that I am coming across as a heartless a*hole, but my concerns regarding lawlessness and crime are not racist rants. They are based on common sense values which this country now tiptoes around for fear of offending anybody. For the record, I am not suggesting that bringing back Trump is in any way a solution. What I am saying is that we the people are heading towards a lawless atheistic society, and that what you see as the solutions are nothing more than gasoline being thrown on a fire. Reparations do not mean that people should look the other way when a crime is clearly being committed."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.6
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... and Tangle will say "why the fuck are you watching Fox News?"
It's not good for you Phat.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. |
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
I rented the movie Scrooge with Albert Finney last night. It was a delight. I shed a tear or two and I saw some of myself in that old heartless miser.
I feel like he did sometimes. I feel no sympathy for criminals, yet I fail to see the beam in my own eye as I comment about the splinters in many of them. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You truly are an utter idiot Phat.
Are the people that committed the mass smash & grabs being sought by the police? Have any of them been caught, tried and found innocent because they were vitims? Reality Phat. Stop paying attention to liars and conmen.My Website: My Website
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ringo Member (Idle past 662 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Jesus taught that traditional culture was the source of oppression in His world.
In short, cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world. Phat writes:
Clearly not.
And I am smart enough to differentiate between truth and lies. Phat writes:
Like only the ones who need it? What I mean is that aid to the people should not target only certain groups."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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Percy Member Posts: 22934 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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Phat writes: The question is "which people"? Go ahead and answer your own question. Would it be people like you and definitely not blacks, American indians and other minorities?
ALL of them? Please tell us which groups you were planning to discriminate against through exclusion.
(Globalism writ LARGE) Do even you know what this means? Is that like all of everything? The Earth rules the universe?
nwr writes: Since you are so concerned about cultural Marxism, maybe you can explain what it is. I have tried a google lookup. But, as best I can tell, there's no such thing. I am NOT referring to the conspiracy theory. The Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory exists. Cultural Marxism does not. It is nothing except what you're making up as you type on your keyboard.
Note that a conspiracy by definition is: Note that focus is on a conspiracy theory, not a conspiracy. A conspiracy theory is a set of spurious arguments for the existence of a conspiracy. Which is what Cultural Marxism is. Cultural Marxism has no actual existence in reality. It's just one of the many bugaboos of the right to keep the base active and agitated and sending in those donations.
<nonsense ignored> My parents were far from aristocratic, however. They simply were benefactors of the aberration which jar has spoken of...the ramped up industrial capacity of the United States for twenty years or so after WWII. Jar did comment in this topic area, but I don't think this accurately captures what he said. If I can add my own take on this, the industrial might of the the United States was a reality well before WWII. We became the world's largest economy by 1890. But the physical separation from the rest of the world by two oceans led to a more isolationistic foreign policy than much of the rest of the world, especially in military matters, that didn't end until WWII left much of the rest of the world in ashes and the US as the world's dominant power.
nwr writes: And yet you belong to the evangelical Christian collective and you regularly vote for the Republican collective. Not true. I voted for Biden over Trump in the last election, though I now regret it. Trump possesses no qualities that the Phat of five years ago would have approved of.
The Democrats in power appear set to spend more money than Trump ever did. You're saying this yet again just one day after I debunked it in Message 365, so I'll say it again:
quote: Do you get it now? Trump and the Republicans were the big deficit busters, not the Democrats.
Critics will say that this money is primarily earmarked to help the US, but statements such as the ones jar has made disturb me. Jar said nothing disturbing. Investing is a good thing. This is still a free country, and Americans are still allowed to invest their dollars where they choose.
jar writes: FULL STOP. Do you mean to suggest that our tax dollars should have gone overseas? We should have accepted the democratically determined will of the people of Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, China, Colombia, Cuba, Dominican Republic, ... the list goes on and on; and allowed those nations to determine their own forms of Government instead of stepping in and trying to force OUR desired government on them. We should have given them aid instead of guns. Is there nothing so simple you can't misunderstand it? Jar is saying that tax dollars used to send military aid would have been better spent as economic aid. It's tempting to arm a country beset by enemies like Israel, but the result is the massive human rights abuses of Gaza and the West Bank. That's all on us.
Though I suppose that they already do indirectly through the BEAST that is the military-industrial complex! Are you still responding to jar, because it sure doesn't seem like it since you're ignoring that you just quoted him arguing for, namely economic instead of military assistance.
This world is SCREWED UP! Not that this isn't true, but so are you.
Note the comments by a left-leaning Christian by the name of John Pavlovitz: Here's a link to what Mr. Pavlovitz said: Yes World, It’s That Bad Here in America—and Worse. Some of it is so pertinent and powerful that I'm going to quote it again:
quote: He's talking about you, Phat. You're the person with the "newly revealed racism" who has "completely abandoned the Jesus they claim faith in and chosen the vilest of idols." You're the one who "casually regurgitates extremist propaganda" and is "spewing anti-immigrant filth." You're the one "empowering...staggering cruelty" and "the complete bastardization of the rule of law." It's you who is enabling "one politcal party's sociopathic lack of empathy and their unrepentant viciousness" and "incessant attacks on LGBTQ people and immigrants and Muslims and the sick and the vulnerable." It's incredible that you're so clueless you quoted a spot-on self-portrait describing your heartlessness, cruelty and disregard for democracy. The people you criticize for denying Jesus have far more Christian spirit in one fingernail than you have in your entire body.
Because by and large, many liberals have dismissed the necessity (nevermind possibility) of surrendering to God as we understand Him and following His mandates and substituted allegiance to a progressive government and allowing "it" to set the mandates. Conservatives with a strong faith and a moral conscience are few and far between, but they get it. Without Jesus Christ, humans will never successfully create a workable consensus and a brave new world. The antitheists violently disagree. The makings of a spiritual war are all too evident. You have surpassed Faith in lack of self-awareness. You've elevated belief in God and accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior as the sole qualification to goodness while spurning kindness and charity toward your fellow man. Your beliefs won't save you from the consequences of your heartlessness and cruelty. I can just picture it as you approach the pearly gates. "I appreciate that you believed in me and accepted my son as Lord and Savior, but did you really write that blacks and Indians would just waste the money, and did you really argue against helping the poor and the descendants of those robbed of their land and freedom?" --Percy
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Phat Member Posts: 18633 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.1 |
jar writes: Yes, thanks to modern technology some have been caught. I wish technology could catch all of them.
Are the people that committed the mass smash & grabs being sought by the police? Have any of them been caught, tried, and found innocent because they were victims? Not to my knowledge. Quit calling me an idiot just because I lean conservative at times. You and others will find out soon enough that the progressives never will run everything and that there are two sides to every story. Quit burying your heads in the sands of ideology and imagining that the world would be a better place if you got rid of the other side. I certainly realize that we need both conservatives and liberals. Maybe you need to learn the same reality."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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ringo Member (Idle past 662 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
It was Jesus who brayed on about the "least of these". I only quote Him.
Ringo will bray on about helping the "least of these".... Phat writes:
You're being dishonest. You're trying to pull the old switcheroo. You're palming the pea. You post videos of organized crime and dishonestly conflate that with people who ARE victims of a racist society. You might as well post videos of the Holocaust and claim that I condone that.
... as if people committing criminal acts are simply victims of a racist society. Phat writes:
They're idiotic rants. Racism is another form of idiocy that you exhibit.
... my concerns regarding lawlessness and crime are not racist rants. Phat writes:
And nobody has suggested that. You're swallowing hook, line and sinker what your right-wing handlers are telling you we think. And you're ignoring what WE tell you we think.
Reparations do not mean that people should look the other way when a crime is clearly being committed. Phat writes:
"Lawless atheistic" is an oxymoron. It's pretty clear that atheists have a moral compass that's equal to or better than Christians'. ... we the people are heading towards a lawless atheistic society...."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 662 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
You're the one who's doing that. Quit burying your heads in the sands of ideology and imagining that the world would be a better place if you got rid of the other side."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Phat writes: Quit calling me an idiot just because I lean conservative at times. You and others will find out soon enough that the progressives never will run everything and that there are two sides to every story. Quit burying your heads in the sands of ideology and imagining that the world would be a better place if you got rid of the other side. I certainly realize that we need both conservatives and liberals. Maybe you need to learn the same reality. Stop lying Phat. I call you an idiot because you keep posting idiotic nonsense. If it walks like an idiot and posts like an idiot it is almost certainly an idiot. I am a conservative. But I am NOT a Fascist. I support the concept that we should have a government of the people, by the people and for the people. All the people and that means providing for the least of these our brothers. I have NEVER suggested getting rid of 'the other side' whatever that absurdity means. I have never tried to stop you from posting really stupid idiotic crap. Stop and honestly read the stuff you've been posting. Look at how often you have retracted your comments only to immediately repost the very same absurdities. You need to seriously stop and actually address your health and mental wellbeing.My Website: My Website
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nwr Member Posts: 6484 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 8.6
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Quit calling me an idiot just because I lean conservative at times.
No, you do not lean conservative. Your leaning is toward radical right wing extremism, which is very different from conservatism.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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