Understanding through Discussion


Welcome! You are not logged in. [ Login ]
EvC Forum active members: 63 (9071 total)
54 online now:
AZPaul3, jar, vimesey (3 members, 51 visitors)
Newest Member: FossilDiscovery
Upcoming Birthdays: Percy
Post Volume: Total: 893,101 Year: 4,213/6,534 Month: 427/900 Week: 133/150 Day: 3/23 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Is science atheism?
anglagard
Member (Idle past 67 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


(2)
Message 41 of 126 (886466)
05-21-2021 4:54 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Tangle
05-21-2021 3:06 AM


Re: Non-Creation Christianity
Tangle writes:

UK population 68m, 43,000 churches = 1 church:1,581 people
USA population 323m, = 1 church: 850 people

Over building churches seems to be a pretty common trait.

Well, the problem is many European and at least one Asian nation established a state religion, whereas the USA has this First Amendment thingy. Now when a nation establishes an official state religion, history has shown it is the greatest recruiting tool for Atheism ever invented. Ask Japan, ask Scandinavia, ask the UK.

I find this phenomena quite entertaining as I am in the USA because it shows that if the Evangelicals get their way and turn the nation into a Fundamentalist dictatorship, human beings will reject you to the point of Atheism, which I consider a vast improvement over Nazism. So, fundies, evangelicals, holy-rollers, 7ths, keep recruiting others to my cause, which means your nonexistence.

So, just want to let mom know that despite our earlier differences, well, mom is still mom, even if we are the rowdiest kids in the herd. Keep up the good work! Rather have more atheists who heal the sick, feed the poor, and comfort the afflicted, than any more "Christians" who reject the words of Christ (or the closest facsimile we have).


The problem with knowing everything is learning nothing.

If you don't know what you're doing, find someone who does, and do what they do.

Republican = death


This message is a reply to:
 Message 40 by Tangle, posted 05-21-2021 3:06 AM Tangle has taken no action

Replies to this message:
 Message 43 by Phat, posted 05-21-2021 11:14 AM anglagard has taken no action

  
anglagard
Member (Idle past 67 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


Message 50 of 126 (886482)
05-21-2021 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Phat
05-21-2021 2:57 PM


Re: Non-Creation Christianity
Phat writes:

Sorry. I get carried away.

My advice is for you to deal with any cognitive management issues you may have prior to posting any material related to Christianity to jar, Ringo, NWR, and I without having read the entire Bible, as is obvious we have done.

I figure by 6/21/21 if you don't complete your mission to read the Gospel According to Matthew, then I will post everything Jesus said that condemns your soul to hell (for now).


The problem with knowing everything is learning nothing.

If you don't know what you're doing, find someone who does, and do what they do.

Republican = death


This message is a reply to:
 Message 47 by Phat, posted 05-21-2021 2:57 PM Phat has taken no action

  
anglagard
Member (Idle past 67 days)
Posts: 2339
From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
Joined: 03-18-2006


(1)
Message 63 of 126 (886517)
05-22-2021 11:02 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Raphael
05-22-2021 9:57 PM


Re: Non-Creation Christianity
Raphael writes:

I appreciate this clarification man. I always want to be a learner. Help me understand, how do you personally understand and differentiate between atheism and agnosticism? I am curious if the others who take such stances would agree. My hypothesis is, as stated above, I do not think there is clarity among non-believing folks. Either way, appreciate the learning.

Not to add to any confusion but there is a third category. In addition to Atheism and Agnosticism there is Ignosticsm. This is the position that:

quote:
the word "God" is meaningless until it is defined. Until one defines "God" they might as well be saying "Fob".

This also means that until you are debating a definition of God that is able to be proven false, you might as well be debating about the word "Fob".


Well, all you have to do to turn me into something I am not, that may be more to others liking, is the demand that I stop learning from the critters, stop communing with nature, stop doing hallucinogenics, stop asking questions, and stop loving life.

No fucking chance in hell.

So, in conclusion, if my Spinoza neopantheism, my Thoreau appreciation of nature and it's lessons, my testing of the limitations of perception, my Humanism, my primate curiosity, makes me a heretic unworthy of continued existence:

If I am not allowed freedom of religion, count me in as Ignostic.


The problem with knowing everything is learning nothing.

If you don't know what you're doing, find someone who does, and do what they do.

Republican = death


This message is a reply to:
 Message 61 by Raphael, posted 05-22-2021 9:57 PM Raphael has taken no action

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2018 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.1
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2022