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Aussie
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Message 106 of 126 (886899)
06-16-2021 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by Phat
05-21-2021 11:10 AM


Re: Non-Creation Christianity
Hi Phat,

I'll never be too greedy to voluntarily donate but I'll be damned if I let government send me the tithing bill.

FYI, The Government isn't telling you to give an additional 10 percent over your required taxes.

Your God and your church are sending you that bill...


"...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"

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Aussie
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Message 110 of 126 (886914)
06-17-2021 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by Phat
06-17-2021 7:02 AM


Re: Reparations, Tithes, and Moral Obligations
Hi Phat,

God sends me no bills. It's the church and the organized religion that push that stuff.

Of course He doesn't send you bills. That's because your God isn't real, unlike the humans running the money-grubbing scam that calls itself "the church," who plead for money relentlessly. I've heard it a thousand times, "Give until it hurts, then give some more, and God will give back a hundred fold; pressed down, shaken together, and running over!" Those people are all too real.
It is really a fascinating study reading you Phat; like, how many ways can one person deny the religion he wants to preach to others...


"...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"

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Aussie
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Message 112 of 126 (886920)
06-18-2021 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by Phat
05-23-2021 6:40 AM


Re: Non-Creation Christianity
I would say that atheism is an observation.

I think more correctly, Atheism is a response to the lack of any convincing observation of or evidence for a god or gods.

There is no room for belief as you are never moved by feelings but only facts. Verifiable reality.

The lack of evidence for, and my resulting disbelief in Zeus does not make me "Unmoved by feelings." I have rich and abundant feelings despite my lack of belief in Artemis or Neptune or Diana of the Ephesians or Jesus or Allah or Molech.

You. Should. Know. Better. By. Now.
It feels like you are just throwing stuff at the wall hoping that something sticks. And some of the stuff you are throwing out these days should embarrass you.

The question I ask myself is why. Why is God not plainly visible to everybody?

Because He's not real.

How delusional could I be?

Ummm... nice people can be delusional.

Edited by Aussie, : No reason given.


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Aussie
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Message 113 of 126 (886925)
06-18-2021 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Phat
06-08-2021 9:46 AM


Re: Non-Creation Christianity
I was taught that beliefs are absolute.

So was I. And it's utter nonsense really. If you agree that witches, gays, adulteresses, and rebellious children should NOT be killed in public as mandated by Scripture, then by definition you are yourself a moral relativist.

My point is that You cant just lump all gods into the same pile.

You really, really can. Every practitioner of every religion in history wanted their god to be real in the same way you want yours to be real.

One of them actually is GOD. An absolute.

Says Phallible Phat and his mushy feelings. Trust me when I tell you that you can't conceive of the clarity and beauty of reality while you are bogged down and lost in the bondage of religion. When you are finally brave enough to stand up and begin to make eye contact with the Universe, the scales will begin to fall off your eyes, and you will wonder why it took you so long.


"...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"

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Aussie
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Message 124 of 126 (886947)
06-19-2021 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Phat
06-19-2021 10:38 AM


Re: Non-Creation Christianity
You simply awakened to the fact that you were trying to please Daddy...

Translation: I was walking everyday in obedience to my Heavenly Father.

...and under willful bondage to an authoritarian religious system.

Translation: Every day I prayed "Not my will, but Thine be done."

You also likely fell under the sway of...

Wanting to reject the oppressive authoritarianism, you threw your god out with it all.

Stop pretending you know the first thing about my past...

For me, throwing God away is as serious as throwing my own life away

Yeah Phat, I remember that feeling well. I could not wrap my brain around not only a universe without a god, but specifically, a universe without my personal God. This is an infection of the mind, and is exactly what makes religion so insidious, and hard to get free of. And it has spread far and fast in you, and is making you sicker at an accelerating rate. You are quickly becoming the resident Faith of the forum; mentally impervious to any reason, intellectual hollowness throwing out vanities into the void. I used to really enjoy going back and forth with you, because at least you were making sense in your own way.

Thus I have no reason to even think of doing so.

You may be almost past the point of no return, Phaith, and I'm sad for it.


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