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Author Topic:   Religious Liberty Quiz
anglagard
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Message 17 of 80 (889015)
10-29-2021 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Phat
10-28-2021 4:09 PM


Re: Freedom From (or Of) Religion
Phat writes:

But lets get back to Phats topic and what ole Phat thinks about these questions, shall we?

I'm game.

1) Students should have a religious right not to say the Pledge of Allegiance. I agree that they should have a right, period. Like nwr says.

Obviously agree. My daughter refused to say the Texas Pledge of Allegiance in HS because Fuck Texas.

2) Service personnel on military bases should be permitted religiously mandated headwear regardless of uniform dress codes. Yes, but only during Chapel. Military responsibilities and protocols over ride religious rights.

Disagree, as a veteran I say you can wear whatever headwear you want anytime you want provided it does not interfere with the mission (it's not easy fitting a gas mask over a turban).

3) Incarcerated persons should be permitted religiously mandated headwear regardless of prison dress codes. Again, this is under the rules of the state. I would suppose that during times of solitude or worship they can wear what they want...but what if some guy claimed he had a religious right to be nude? See the complexities of this stuff?

If someone wants to parade around nude in prison,who cares if they drop the soap.

3) Incarcerated persons should be permitted religiously mandated headwear regardless of prison dress codes. Again, this is under the rules of the state. I would suppose that during times of solitude or worship they can wear what they want...but what if some guy claimed he had a religious right to be nude? See the complexities of this stuff?

4) Children should have a religious right to attend school without being vaccinated. This gets into the issue of whether the state has a social responsibility to protect other kids (yes) and whether the state can override your beliefs (yes to a limited degree when the safety of others is involved.) But the whole secular freedom from religion thing is itself a sub-topic. Can of worms. Hornets' nest.

Everyone is their brother's keeper. Vax, quarantine, or deport.

5) Individuals should have the right to proselytize in public spaces regardless of anti-solicitation ordinances. On public property, yes. But they must not have the right to hate speech. Offending others using Jesus' name is only offending your demons anyway!

Public spaces only if not inciting violence.

6) Individuals should have the right to proselytize in semipublic spaces like shopping malls and baseball stadiums. Yes, but no more than any other vendor hawking hot dogs and beer!

Owners of private property have the right to police such property as they see fit. Are you anti-Capitalist?

7) Teacher-led prayer should be permitted in public schools. Only if every student gets a note permitting them to listen. And prayer to whom? Odin? BigFoot? Leprechauns??? I don't think so!

Never. Teacher-led implies the sanction gf the state.

8) Student-led prayer should be permitted at public school assemblies. Yes if it is brief and voluntary and that all religions can participate in their own groups. Keyword: Brief.

Never(see above)

9) Business owners should have a religious right to refuse service to customers on the basis of gender. Nope. Service can only be refused due to offensive behavior by the customer.

Bingo. Phat is thy brother's keeper.

10) Business owners should have a religious right to refuse service to customers on the basis of race. No. Obviously not.

Good call.

11) Pharmacists should have a religious right to refuse to sell contraceptive products to customers. \[b\]Again, no. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesars, including the right to engage in business.

If pharmacists refuse to sell contraceptives, then they should be made freely available.

12) Houses of worship should be exempt from zoning regulations. The question is why?

Houses of whorship that do not remit 80% to the ill and destitute

13) Religious organizations should be exempt from employment anti-discrimination laws. \[b\] No in most circumstances. I cant at the moment think of any exceptions.

Fine, discriminate and lose tax exempt status.

14) Religious organizations should be exempt from workplace safety regulations.NO!

Agreed

15) Religious exemptions from vaccination mandates should be allowed under any circumstances. Vaccinations are a public health issue. People can abstain, but then must wear masks in public and social distance.

Vax, quarantine, or deport.

16) Religious exemptions from vaccination mandates should be allowed if medical exemptions are allowed.

Vax, quarantine, or deport.

17) Individuals should have a religious right not to work on their holy days. Yes, within reasonable accommodation limits.

Agreed

18) Religious organizations should have the same right to apply for government funding that secular organizations have. YES.

NO. if such funding does nothing to improve life, then no funding.

19) Women should have a religious right to obtain an abortion regardless of government restrictions. As long as they pay for it...unless they were raped.

Women should be able to obtain an abortio9n for free. Poverty is no excuse for slavery.

20) Indigenous peoples should have a religious right to refuse infrastructure construction on land they deem sacred. depends whose land it legally is.

Technically, isn't the land already theirs by first claims?

21) Polygamy should be permitted as a religious right.I suppose. Knock yourselves out.

Who cares?

22) Publicly traded companies should have religious rights. what rights are we talking about?

Good question. I suppose under the religion of capitalism Amazon and Tesla are denominations.

23) Religious organizations should have the right to refuse to cover contraceptive services in their health insurance plans. depends how much of a cost increase it is.

Health insurance is a right.

24) For-profit companies should have a religious right to refuse to cover contraceptive services in their health insurance plans.\[b\] wait a minute...are corporations people? nonetheless yes they do.

Health insurance is a right. If any organization refuses to provide health insurance it is incumbent on the government to do so. Like in civilized countries like Canada and New Zealand.


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