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Message 16 of 90 (890995)
01-13-2022 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Phat
01-12-2022 8:13 PM


Re: What advantages would a modern fascist state have?
Phat writes:

... what possible advantages would a fascist state have...?


Well, it would have a lot of advantages for the fascists.

Phat writes:

What would the people expect out of such a state versus what such a totalitarian regime actually deliver?


Totalitarianism is not for your benefit.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 18 of 90 (890998)
01-13-2022 11:11 AM
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01-13-2022 2:36 AM


Re: Are States Rights A Smokescreen?
Phat writes:

They want to essentially lock our private earnings in with a national agenda.


The best defense you have against a "national agenda" is a strong democracy where everybody's viewpoint is represented. YOU are working against that by calling the liberal point-of-view "satanic".

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 83 of 90 (891295)
01-24-2022 10:50 AM
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01-19-2022 11:13 AM


Re: Is Jesus Liberal or Conservative or...
Phat writes:

One of them which I do *not* accept is the fact that all viewpoints lead to truth.


Who said they did?

Phat writes:

Truth is the eternally living character of Jesus Christ.


Nonsense. By their FRUITS ye shall know them.

Phat writes:

Again, WWJD?


You don't care WJWD. You scoff at WJTYTD.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 84 of 90 (891296)
01-24-2022 10:56 AM
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01-19-2022 3:24 PM


Re: Is Jesus Liberal or Conservative or...
Phat writes:

The problem in the world today that frightens me is the demise of the United States of America. Russia and China are already testing the diplomacy of strength that we had for so many years.


Trump is a far greater threat to the US than Russia and China put together. If the US does collapse in our lifetime, it will be from within.

What you have to fear is fear itself.


"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 85 of 90 (891297)
01-24-2022 11:00 AM
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01-19-2022 5:01 PM


Re: Is Jesus Liberal or Conservative or...
Phat writes:

At that time many will turn away from the faith.


Jesus was talking about YOU. "The faith" is faith in the message.

Phat writes:

Love will grow cold.


Buy a mirror. There's a beam in your eye.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 86 of 90 (891298)
01-24-2022 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 62 by Phat
01-22-2022 8:55 AM


Re: Is Jesus Liberal or Conservative or...
Phat writes:

You cant be a Christian without knowing Jesus.


How can you claim to "know" Jesus when you argue against everything He said?

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 87 of 90 (891299)
01-24-2022 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 66 by Phat
01-22-2022 3:59 PM


Re: spending on homeless
Phat writes:

I suppose that you think the money to give away housing will come from the state. Thus, taxes will need to be higher....


This has been explained to you many times: Pull the poor up to where THEY can pay taxes. That won't increase your taxes.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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Message 90 of 90 (891308)
01-24-2022 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Phat
01-24-2022 11:52 AM


Re: spending on homeless
Phat writes:

I dont pay many taxes yet


So what the F**K are you whining about?

Phat writes:

Do you honestly think that you can make the top 10% fund your social programs and green new deals?


If you ever read my posts, you'd know I don't advocate taxing the rich.

Phat writes:

And that leaves the rest of us working hard and being forced by the government to share what little we have.


Again... ... sharing what you have helps EVEYBODY.

Phat writes:

ringo writes:

How can you claim to "know" Jesus when you argue against everything He said?


This is obviously a hollow assertion

Nope. You prove it with every post.

Phat writes:

You *know* that Jesus does not exist...


Nope.

Phat writes:

... but you use his message to justify your party's agenda.


Nope. There's no party and no agenda. I DO understand that the Jesus character in the Bible got it right on some things. And I DO understand that that's the ONLY valid reference we have for what Jesus (if He ever existed) may have said.

Phat writes:

I don't ignore what Jesus told me to do.


Worse than that, you argue against what He said. It's in your posts. Don't pretend you didn't do it.

Phat writes:

I ignore what the liberal agenda tries to make me do.


It has nothing to do with any agenda, liberal or otherwise. (And you do realize, don't you, that your harping against "liberals" proves that you're not the moderate that you pretend to be.)

If you ever read my posts, you'd know that it isn't about the government forcing you to do anything. I have told you that many, many, many times. You should be EAGER to do what Jesus told you to do. If you and other Christians were doing what you're supposed to do, there would be no need for government involvement at all.

Phat writes:

The whole issue is power.


Nope. Nothing whatsoever to do with power. It's about compassion.

Phat writes:

You guys simply don't nor never will have the power to make anyone pay anything.


And i keep telling you, it isn't about "us" having the power to do anything. It's about YOU having an ounce of compassion.

Phat writes:

unless the "message" has been hijacked into some sort of universal brotherhooded campaign solgan.


See, there you go again, arguing against Jesus' message of universal brotherhood.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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