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Tangle
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Message 3 of 470 (891205)
01-21-2022 12:41 PM


As far as I can tell, this is gibberish. I'm pretty sure it is but it might just be real, 100% gibber.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 22 of 470 (891236)
01-22-2022 3:33 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-21-2022 10:53 PM


MrID writes:

“How can you differentiate a created X to an un-created X”?

Intelligent Design has been investigated, discussed and dismissed by science years ago. Paley's watch argument centuries ago.

If you want to come here and talk about ID, that's fine but it's not a great start linking us to self-published books and papers full of self-congratulatory gobbledegook. You're just going to get ridiculed as yet another deluded religious nutter.

If you want a discussion, make a concise summary of your argument here.

Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 32 of 470 (891283)
01-23-2022 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-23-2022 2:11 PM


MrID writes:

Am I talking religious people or religious freaks here or scientists or science-lovers??
I think supporters of EVOLUTION are becoming religious freaks because they had no power from Darwin to counter me...
Real scientist do not insult. Real scientist study and rebut, if dis-agree...

Real science deals with observation and evidence. Show us something that was intelligently designed.

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Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 36 of 470 (891291)
01-24-2022 4:52 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-24-2022 3:45 AM


MrID writes:

I've already answered that in my link...and more..

We don't argue by link here.

Present your evidence. Show us something intelligently designed. It would be great if you could also show us the designer too but one step at a time.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 67 of 470 (891455)
01-31-2022 2:44 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2022 6:20 PM


Re: How to tell?
MrID writes:

That is a very good question!!!

And it's one you’ve been asked in various forms by all of us because it's the basis of the design argument. So what is your answer?

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Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 74 of 470 (891506)
02-01-2022 4:40 AM
Reply to: Message 72 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-01-2022 4:26 AM


Re: How to tell?
MrID writes:

hank you, guys. For probably two weeks or more, I will never be able to answer all of your posts to me.

You don't need to answer all of us because we've all asked you the same question. If you can't tell us how you know something is designed or not you haven't even started.

I will be submitting to Nature Journal a science article titled, "Scientific Falsification of the Theory of Evolution (ToE) and Its Replacement". If Nature rejected me, the article will end up in Zenodo, and I will be sharing you again the link... if you want. But in break time, I will be probably reading all your comments. Guys,

Nature will reject you by return of post.

I am very serious in science for I think I am right.

You may be serious, but what you are doing is not science.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 94 of 470 (891583)
02-04-2022 3:41 AM


So many nutters, so little time.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


  
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Message 122 of 470 (891783)
02-11-2022 3:34 AM


How old is the Earth MrID?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 125 of 470 (891788)
02-11-2022 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-11-2022 8:38 AM


MrID writes:

I never yet check it but I think it is young.

Young being less than 10,000 years?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 134 of 470 (891810)
02-12-2022 3:15 AM
Reply to: Message 130 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-11-2022 7:51 PM


MrID writes:

Probably, we need to calculate something in Biology and in Quantum Mechanics...

Oh really? And what would that 'something' be?

It's more conventional for religious nutjobs to 'calculate something' from the ages of people in the bible. Are you sure you're not one of them?

Are you sure that your 'science' is not just religion? and specifically fundamental Christianity?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 139 of 470 (891815)
02-12-2022 9:54 AM
Reply to: Message 135 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-12-2022 8:31 AM


MrID writes:

There are many ways to solve problems in science, and I think I know how to do it...

You realise of course, that by denying evolution and claiming that the earth is only 6,000 years old you have just abolished practically all of science?

Zoology, botany, molecular genetics, palaeontology, cladistics and taxonomy, geology, dendrochronology, archaeology, astronomy, radiophysics, physics itself - all gone.

Maybe a bit of chemistry still works?

So you think that all of current science is wrong? And that you - who can barely string a coherent sentence together can sort it all out?

You're a nutter.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 169 of 470 (891886)
02-16-2022 6:20 PM
Reply to: Message 168 by Tanypteryx
02-16-2022 6:08 PM


Re: Got No ID
Actually, he's "not even wrong".

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 174 of 470 (891892)
02-16-2022 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by Tanypteryx
02-16-2022 6:32 PM


Re: Got No ID
AzPaul writes:

Yeah, I know, but it's hard to come up with a term that accurately describes this level of absurdity, "Where's the Beef?", just cannot do justice to something that is more than 100% wrong. I had no idea something could be more than 100% wrong.

He's mentally ill. I'm not just saying that, he's obviously medically deluded. People with that illness aren't right or wrong, they're just ill.

I feel a bit queasy about how we treat people like him here when it's become obvious that he's broken, it's like we're so desperate for argument/discussion that we forget that people can actually be ill.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 258 of 470 (892822)
03-15-2022 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 257 by vimesey
03-15-2022 8:02 AM


His delusion is too fixed for kindness - or anything - to help.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 330 of 470 (893567)
04-16-2022 3:10 PM


I saw a magpie building a nest today. It's rather good, domed with a hole in the side.

It looked intelligently designed to me, but I couldn't see the plan he was working to. God's plan I guess. It's an English bird so it'll be a Christian bird. Probably. It's getting a bit hard to know these days.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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