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Message 221 of 1197 (892000)
02-19-2022 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-19-2022 3:29 PM


Re: Got No ID
Which part did I lied?
Message 1
I am just sharing you how we need to use real science in answering the question of origins.
You lied. You shared nothing.
Message 9
Well, I am sharing you the link, especially in article in zenodo, so that you will know your opponent.
You lied. You shared nothing except unintelligible noise.
Message 10
But the best is my science discoveries...
You lied. You have no discoveries.
Message 16
The New Intelligent Design and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations
You lied. Your new ID is non-existent.
Message 28
I think supporters of EVOLUTION are becoming religious freaks because they had no power from Darwin to counter me...
You lied. Our power over you is absolute, and you know it.
Message 35
I've already answered that in my link...and more..
You lied. You did not provide any answer in ANY form.
... and it goes on.
You are a liar.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 228 of 1197 (892346)
03-05-2022 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 227 by Sarah Bellum
03-05-2022 3:24 PM


... how do you account for this?
Ahh, yes. A question like those asked a dozen+- times in this thread.
The New and Improved ID v 2.0 accounts for this very well but you and I are unworthy to see the answers. We are not pure enough to benefit from the wonders of this New and Improved ID v 2.0 thus the revolutionary knowledge of its workings are hidden from us mere lesser intellects.
We won’t see it until he gets published and acknowledged a super genius. Don’t wait up.
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Message 287 of 1197 (893044)
03-24-2022 3:48 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by nwr
03-24-2022 3:18 PM


I hope MrID does rise again. I would seriously ask he show us how. How do you tell the difference in living vs non-living, intelligent vs non-intelligent using IDv2
I don't think he understands that his 'publications' are not helpful because we cannot understand the syntax or the processes. He didn't write those so good.
I would like him to walk us through an example, where to start, what numbers to use, what methodology. Maybe he can show us how his IDv2 improves over science.
Right.
Still, I'd like to ask.

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Message 295 of 1197 (893061)
03-25-2022 5:22 AM
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03-25-2022 4:46 AM


Living is when a physical body has life, or like electric current of a toy. If a toy has no electric current, then, it is dead.
This is undeniable when a dog dies. The dog has physical body but has no life (electric current).
I see absolutely no use of IDv2 in your answer. You're saying something that is alive is alive. So tell us something we don't already know. Where does your IDv2 come into play here?
intelligence = problem-solution-solution. (max limit is 3)
non-intelligence = problem-solution (max limit is 1)
I saw this in your paper. It means nothing to me. What are these numbers? You don't tell us how these relate. Where from? Justify. What does "problem-solution-solution" mean? I need detailed explanations of what these refer to and how you justified these meanings.
So, I have a something. How do I use your new IDv2 to tell if it was created or not? How do I use your new IDv2 to tell me if this is intelligent or not? Where do I start?
What is the first step in IDv2 to answering the question?
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Message 297 of 1197 (893063)
03-25-2022 6:10 AM
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03-25-2022 5:52 AM


If you cannot teach then you do not know. Your IDv2 is nothing until you can explain it, spoon feed it, to the rest of us.
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Message 298 of 1197 (893064)
03-25-2022 6:23 AM
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03-25-2022 5:52 AM


The Thing.
Again, I’ve got this thing. How do I tell using you new IDv2 if it is created or natural?
What is the first step? There has to be an initial step in any process. What is yours?
It really is a simple question. Thing … created or natural? What is IDv2’s first move?
You do know the answer to this question, don't you? You did invent this stuff, right?
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Message 300 of 1197 (893070)
03-25-2022 10:31 AM
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03-25-2022 10:22 AM


Re: The Thing.
I thought that statement might spark your interest.

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Message 303 of 1197 (893073)
03-25-2022 10:42 AM
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03-25-2022 10:34 AM


Re: The Thing.
had to correct the spelling of lightbub
And I note you still didn't get it right.
I'm not the only one having fun here this morning.
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Message 305 of 1197 (893075)
03-25-2022 11:06 AM
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03-25-2022 10:50 AM


Re: The Thing.
Oh god, I am so slow sometimes.
You spelled it right to begin with then had to go back and correct it. Now I understand.

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Message 309 of 1197 (893132)
03-28-2022 9:14 AM
Reply to: Message 296 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-25-2022 5:52 AM


Bump for Mr.ID
You have yet to answer.
Again, I’ve got this thing. How do I tell using you new IDv2 if it is created or natural?
What is the first step? There has to be an initial step in any process. What is yours?
It really is a simple question. Thing … created or natural? What is IDv2’s first move?

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Message 315 of 1197 (893196)
03-31-2022 7:02 PM
Reply to: Message 311 by MrIntelligentDesign
03-30-2022 1:28 AM


No Help. Let's Try Again.
ANSWER: Use the Universal Boundary Line (UBL) from the new ID.
Fine. What is that? How do I use that? What do I do?
ANSWER: I do not know the "thing = X", so the only tool for categorization of the "thing = X" is your basic sensory systems. Then, look for any features (X') on that X resembled similar to human design, since humans always compare all X to humans made X. Start from that, then, as you dig further about X, you can just eliminate all human-made-error of X' that you have listed,
In the UBL, it states that if
intellen, then, you could find two or more supports/features (X') to that X. If not, if naturen, the X' will become 1, the X is natural (non-intelligently designed).
So your new ID2.0 system is to look at the thing and see if there are any obvious signs of design.
Like what? What attributes would be seen as ‘designed’ versus what attributes would be seen as ‘not designed’?
Is it all your personal feeling or is there a rigorous set of rules like in a real science hypothesis? And what’s this human made error stuff? An error in what? What does that look like? How would I recognize an error?
I’m not getting anywhere. Your write-up is no help.

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Message 318 of 1197 (893435)
04-13-2022 11:32 AM
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03-31-2022 7:02 PM


Bump: No Help. Let's Try Again
Bump for MrID.
ANSWER: Use the Universal Boundary Line (UBL) from the new ID.
Fine. What is that? How do I use that? What do I do?
ANSWER: I do not know the "thing = X", so the only tool for categorization of the "thing = X" is your basic sensory systems. Then, look for any features (X') on that X resembled similar to human design, since humans always compare all X to humans made X. Start from that, then, as you dig further about X, you can just eliminate all human-made-error of X' that you have listed,
In the UBL, it states that if
intellen, then, you could find two or more supports/features (X') to that X. If not, if naturen, the X' will become 1, the X is natural (non-intelligently designed).
So your new ID2.0 system is to look at the thing and see if there are any obvious signs of design.
Like what? What attributes would be seen as ‘designed’ versus what attributes would be seen as ‘not designed’?
Is it all your personal feeling or is there a rigorous set of rules like in a real science hypothesis? And what’s this human made error stuff? An error in what? What does that look like? How would I recognize an error?
I’m not getting anywhere. Your write-up is no help.

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Message 328 of 1197 (893510)
04-15-2022 12:48 PM
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04-15-2022 4:07 AM


Re: Bump: No Help. Let's Try Again
if intellen (intelligently designed), you will expect that problem-solution-solution
You need to explain these. Why separate words? Categories? What is the meaning of each positional?
This is the major problem. There is too much unexplained that you ASSUME you cover in your write ups but are, in fact, totally devoid of discernible meaning. Your paper is not understandable.
We have no clue what "problem-solution-solution" means. What is "problem"? Why are there two "solution"s?
Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Why can't you explain these things?
We need details, in copious amounts, on the meanings of your words. Definitions in cogent english that we can understand.
You label JWST as intellen which you define as intelligently designed. Understatement.
JWST is one of the most intelligently designed systems to ever grace this universe. And it was intelligently designed and painstakingly built by natural random chemistry that blindly evolved into monkeys. Unintended naturen intelligently built the JWST. Show us otherwise if you can.
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Message 331 of 1197 (893569)
04-16-2022 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 330 by Tangle
04-16-2022 3:10 PM


Like the JWST is intelligently designed and built by simians, magpie nests are intelligently designed and built by avians.
Neither was from some god's plan. These specific avian structures are the Magpie's plan. JWST was the engineers' plan. Gods, being fictions, have nothing to do with any of it.
I wonder if magpies sit and argue over drawings on the backs of paper napkins while enjoying a drink. Must be since all engineers do.

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Message 336 of 1197 (893605)
04-17-2022 1:14 PM
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04-17-2022 1:01 PM


Good Old Days
I know it sounds like an apocryphal trope but in the early 80's we seriously had to buy some of a restaurant's cloth napkins. After one guy started and realized his media error we asked the manager to put it on our tab. He agreed. We went through three of them.

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