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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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You were lucky enough to find your way here and there are lots of us willing to help you learn the basics of TOE, Christianity, Reality, the mechanics of thinking and even how you might be able to challenge the TOE.
But not unless you decide to stop being willfully ignorant. Throw intelligent design away. Throw your god away. Ask questions. Right now you are simply a pitiful example of the very worst of the Christian Cult of Ignorance and Deceit. Edited by jar, : applin spallinMy Website: My Website
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
MrID said: You really do not know the ToE well... AZPaul3 said: But you obviously do, so, please tell us all how ToE works. NO! I change my mind! I don’t want to know about the ToE. I don’t care what you think of the ToE. I want to know about your new ID v 2. You got any ID? Show me your ID.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Must be busy getting all those papers submitted to science journals for publication...
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
Well, it's not fair to not share. If he wanted to be friendly he would share. I am disappointed. Bitterly disappointed. Yep.
Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Yep, bitterly disappointed.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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MrIntelligentDesign Member (Idle past 557 days) Posts: 248 Joined: |
Look, the biological world and living organisms are in front of us.. we see them everyday, that is the reality. You do not need ToE to explain biology. You just need reality to explain reality.
ToE is not the reality.
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MrIntelligentDesign Member (Idle past 557 days) Posts: 248 Joined: |
I told you that AFTERR they rejected me, since I will uploading the article all possible free access journals...
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Biology is the Theory of Evolution.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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PaulK Member Posts: 17907 Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
quote: Which is why your mental illness defeats you. In reality you don’t understand what you’re talking about. You’re not doing science. Your “papers” are nonsense that won’t get published in any respectable journal. That you can think otherwise just shows that you need psychiatric help. So you can get back to reality.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Good, maybe you understand the very first lesson.
The MAP is not the territory. True reality is all around us but not the explanation of how such critters came to exist. The TOE is the map that explains how the reality came to exist.My Website: My Website
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
You poor demented fool. You are not going to get published ... by anyone ... ever. Which is fine by me since you keep us entertained.
Dance, squeaky toy. Sing your one-note montra about how smart you are and dance for us.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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The bottom of the barrel is much worse than we thought.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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nwr Member Posts: 6484 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 9.1
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The bottom of the barrel is much worse than we thought.
Clearly, you are an optimist. There is no bottom.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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There is no bottom. In military humor there was a list of quotes from British naval officer fitness reports (fitreps, the officer version of enlisted evals). One memorable one that repeatedly comes to mind in my encounters with creationists:
quote: Just for fun, a few more from that list:
Carry out the Plan of the Day! Dismissed!
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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Casting more pearls before swine (meaning you, but since you're obviously a Christian I have no doubt that you cannot recognize that reference since you will not have actually read the Bible), but lurkers may benefit from these pearls even though you never will.
Look, the biological world and living organisms are in front of us.. we see them everyday, that is the reality. You do not need ToE to explain biology. You just need reality to explain reality. Since you have displayed no understanding of science, plus learn something and realize that the purpose and goal of science is to study the physical universe (AKA "reality") and to discover how it works. That means that when a scientist observes something, his first question will be "How does that work?" In contrast, "Intelligent Design" (ID) doesn't care how reality works (nor even what reality is), but rather seeks to subvert reality to be subordinate to their religious misconceptions. We see that in their basic argument of [voice=dull_IDiot]"Duh, this is really complex; I can't figure how it happened so God must'a dun it!"[/voice] The problem for ID is that "god-did-it" answers nothing and even serves to stop science from seeking answers (refer to the topic here, So Just How is ID's Supernatural-based Science Supposed to Work? (SUM. MESSAGES ONLY)). Amateur geologist J. Richard Wakefield expressed it very well in two articles in which he examined Robert Gentry's bogus polonium-halo claims. He went to the sites where Gentry had obtained his samples and found that Gentry had grossly misrepresented those formations. At first Gentry agreed to work with him, but then quickly backed out as the truth started to come out. Wakefield concluded one article ("Gentry's Tiny Mystery -- Unsupported by Geology" by J. Richard Wakefield, Creation/Evolution Issue XXII, Winter 1987-1988, pp 31-32) with:
quote: In another article which I must quote from memory, Wakefield's conclusion included:
quote: That describes ID completely. For example, what about the question of how biology works? A basic definition of evolution that I've adopted is that it's the cumulative consequences of what happens when life does what life naturally does, especially what happens to generations of populations of individuals as they survive, reproduce offspring who are very similar to them yet different, then those offspring mature and survive (or don't), etc, etc, etc. That in its most basic minimalist form is what evolution works with. ID's basis is "God did it". Doesn't deal with how life actually works, nor with reality itself. Just "goddidit".
ToE is not the reality. The Theory of Evolution is the best explanation that we have of everything that we see in biology. In contrast, ID explains nothing about biology. So which is the better explanation? Something that actually offers an explanation or something that can never explain anything? Now, why should an explanation of biology have any importance? Basically, it's in the difference between knowledge and understanding. Knowledge is nothing but a dry list of facts that you must memorize but which tells you nothing about those facts. Understanding is realizing what all those dry facts have to do with each other and with so much else. Our first stop in that question is the very famous quote from an article by Theodosius Dobzhansky, Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution (American Biology Teacher 35:125-129 (March 1973), p. 129) -- (quoted here a bit more fully than usual):
quote: In the family I had built, our love of science was based in understanding it and how it worked, a love that we passed on to my sons who also grew up loving science. In contrast, my nephew's experience with science was solely memorizing disassociated facts that made no sense, so he grew up hating science. Many people have similar love-vs-hate relationships with history depending on whether they learned history with the motivations involved or solely as a list of dry and very dusty names and dates. Decades ago, I attended a talk by Dr. Eugenie Scott, then-Executive Director of the National Center for Science Education (NCSE). In her talk, she told a story from her personal experience as a Physical Anthropology professor (entirely from memory and placing her in the third person):
quote: Now to really blow MrID's mind: ToE is not reality, but rather it explains reality. That is what a theory does: it explains something. ID explains nothing. If you have any evidence or actual arguments to refute that, then do please present it. Any of it.
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