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Message 3 of 83 (891388)
01-28-2022 3:09 PM


Welcome Home. Pull up a stump and set a spell.

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Message 15 of 83 (891466)
01-31-2022 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by Hangdawg13
01-31-2022 10:16 AM


The past is fixed. The future not yet recorded.

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Message 23 of 83 (891481)
01-31-2022 3:20 PM
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01-31-2022 2:48 PM


The past is.

What we record as the past is as fluid and conflicting as what is recorded in the Bibles.

But the narrative is simply the narrative, it does not change the reality of what happened.

Dawg writes:

If upon my death bed I have a life review and see my dog running through the yard is every blade of grass in the same place or did God's GAN upscale a blank patch labeled "grass" into freshly created grass because the location of the blades of grass doesn't matter?

What you experience is simply a fantasy and will be whatever you create within your personal fantasy.

It is separate from any reality beyond the fact that it is the fantasy you created for yourself at that moment.

It is a GAN, nothing more.


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Message 28 of 83 (891487)
01-31-2022 4:59 PM
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01-31-2022 4:50 PM


Dawg writes:

If the past exists in the present, how does it exist? Where is it stored? How is it accessed?

HINT.

It's called "the past".

DAWG writes:

To say experience is simply fantasy is to diminish it and it diminishes the reality of the consequences of your actions upon others.

YAWN.

Experience has absolutely no meaning or reality beyond the individuals' fantasies.

Your behavior though does have reality.

Edited by jar, : fix quotebox


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Message 33 of 83 (891493)
01-31-2022 6:38 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Hangdawg13
01-31-2022 5:22 PM


Dawg writes:

You said "The past is."

That implies it exists in the present.

You also indicated it was real and immutable...

but your dismissal of these questions now implies the past is gone and irretrievable.

Which is it?

Still thinking like a third year middleschooler there DAWG.

No, "The past is" does not imply it exists in the present.

It is called "The Past".

It is real and immutable because it did happen, and we cannot now change what did happen.

I also went on to try to explain to you that there is a difference between what actually happened and what is recorded, and, in many cases, what is believed.


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Message 39 of 83 (891507)
02-01-2022 7:12 AM
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01-31-2022 8:27 PM


DAWG writes:

If it is not recorded or retrievable somehow - if it is truly gone forever - then the past is not fixed because there are an infinite number of pasts that could have led to this particular present.

But there is only one of those infinity number of pasts that DID lead to this point. That past is fixed. All the possible pasts that did not lead to this present are irrelevant.

Parts of it may never be known but where it is recorded, we can know. And what is recorded often tells us what WAS NOT recorded. The shape of fossil leaves tells us about temperatures, the size of fossil raindrops tells us how hard it was raining, minerals left in ice cores tells us about event that were unwitnessed.

If it is not recorded directly or indirectly then it's not gone forever, it's simply unknown.


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Message 43 of 83 (891524)
02-01-2022 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by nwr
02-01-2022 12:27 PM


Why would it matter whether or not it's true?

When you read the diary, you read what is there.

What possible difference would it make if it were not what you actually wrote?


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Message 54 of 83 (891601)
02-04-2022 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Phat
02-04-2022 3:46 PM


Re: Getting Wound Up Before Work
You can't really be as stupid as your posts indicate but maybe you are.

Phat writes:

And if you are gonna suggest that Source (Men who knew Jesus) was irrelevant, how could we in any way assign a value to anonymous content, be it science, scripture, or the Vedas?

You assign the value based on how the content relates to reality, to what is actually contained in the content regardless of the source.

In Genesis 2&3 it is the serpent that tells the truth and the god that lies and withholds information.


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Message 76 of 83 (891693)
02-09-2022 9:56 AM
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02-09-2022 9:04 AM


Re: What is waving?
Congrats and condolences as appropriate.

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