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LamarkNewAge
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Message 197 of 995 (892410)
03-06-2022 9:20 PM


God, I am glad I got a hyperlink here. Still cant find the Feb 27 Anc statement
My site was INTERNATIONAL CRISIS GROUP
ARTICLE:
THE UKRAIN:A GLOBAL CRISIS
I typed "crisis group" and it hyper linked. Above. It was mot am o tentipnal hyper link.
But I am glad I tuped it here.
I cant find any hits (google!) On the anc statement of feb 27.
My Pakistan & South Africa text is not producing any hits.
I penciled the SA & Pakistsm text whem the site was in my browser.
Google is shit!
Now I hit my hyper link, above, and found article. Glad I posted here.
Now I can hit dites hyper link to February 27 ANC statement.
"brazen propaganda" & "unprecedented disinformation" "ANC" produce no google hits.
I typed in African National Congress and more, but no hit!
Crazy.

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 201 of 995 (892414)
03-06-2022 10:45 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by Theodoric
03-06-2022 9:36 PM


Re: lying again (So respond to the MAJORITY South African voice
ANC CONCERNED BY THE RAPID ESCALATION OF CONFLICT BETWEEN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE
27 FEBRUARY
Theodoric, its time!
Did you see the very first sentence condemn the Ukranian shelling of Donetsk and Lutansk?
Did you see the next sentence condemning the West gor the "drumbeats of war"?
I wish we could import the ANC party to the United States!
My only disagreement is that the part opposes necklacing.
I would love to lace the fascists here. Get the tires and gas!
Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 205 of 995 (892420)
03-07-2022 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by Theodoric
03-07-2022 8:17 AM


Re: Know anything about the ANC?
The ANC releaded a statement that is the stand of the party.
You said you would quote and respond to every sentence if you could open the party's site, and posess the text.
You just admitted you found it.
So, go ahead.
Ready.
Set.
Go!
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 208 of 995 (892434)
03-07-2022 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by Theodoric
03-07-2022 9:55 AM


Re: Know anything about the ANC?
The ANC has a democratically elected super-majority in the parliament.
The main opposition group is white people. But, when ONLY whites had the right yo vote, most choose apartheid.
You did agree to quote & respond to every line.
See post 189 snd 190
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 209 of 995 (892435)
03-07-2022 10:15 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by Tangle
03-07-2022 9:47 AM


South Africa has as many people as the UK.
And most of the world agrees with South Africa.
The "disinformation" is Western, and most of the world knows it.

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 215 of 995 (892463)
03-07-2022 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 213 by AZPaul3
03-07-2022 1:46 PM


Re: South Africa has as many people as the UK.
Only the White World supported short-circuiting the negotiations.
You can spin this all you want to, because you only care about the white choir, here, and the white world, generally.
You can pretend you dislike the Tsars, you can pretend you dislike Nazis, you can pretend there is as much as foil-wrapper's thickness of difference between Democrats & Republicans, but you only get mileage because you know what works with brainwashed and/or fascist whites.
I suppose the African National Congress is "Tsarist" and the white Democratic Alliance is the "anti-fascist" force, now?
(Theodoric attempted to make that case)
PaulK claimed to be a champion of human rights, while making statements, about World War 2 combatants, that would make anybody (slightly) to the left of Aryan Nations blush.
I actually had to pinch myself, reading PaulK's World War 2 views. If our debate was in person, I would study his face to try to figure out if he was joking.
I just want to be clear about something:
You guys actually claim to represent the general non-white world views, to some significant extent?
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LamarkNewAge
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Posts: 2236
Joined: 12-22-2015


Message 217 of 995 (892465)
03-07-2022 11:04 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by Tanypteryx
03-07-2022 10:03 PM


Re: South Africa has as many people as the UK.
You guys keep trying to make Putin out to be an ideological successor to the White Russians.
So, what right do you have to - legitimately - call someone full of shit?
Putin clearly (very clearly) has much of the basic nucleus of (international) support, from the nations that were aligned with the Soviet Union. There are differences, for sure, but most is the same.
That is just one hint that you guys are the ones full of shit.
Drop this Tsar Putin, lie line.
It is disgraceful.
It is ignorant.
It is the type of "dumbing down" nonsense that could bring the human race down to cavemen-levels of awarness & dialogue.
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LamarkNewAge
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Posts: 2236
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Message 221 of 995 (892469)
03-08-2022 12:35 AM
Reply to: Message 219 by AZPaul3
03-08-2022 12:18 AM


Re: South Africa has as many people as the UK.
You & the EvC crew like to confuse the crap out of every issue.
Which white (lower case, meaning race) monarchy are you not in love with?
White (upper case W) Russia, if it existed today, would be another U.K. type nation.
Im not necessarily calling that a good thing ( I think it would be bad for the non-white world), but you sure would love it.
You would love a 2022 *Russia with the Tsars still functioning, to some level. People of color, around the world, would be in the shitter, and in a scary way, but you wouldn't have it any other way.
I would!
Im glad your Tsars are on the asheap.
I want fascists to be on the ash heap too. The actual Russia we have - in OUR world - is a vital component to make that happen.
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 223 of 995 (892473)
03-08-2022 1:52 AM


I better state flat-out that PaulK is more than 100.0% full of shit on Soviets & mino
I attempted to ignore that one earlier, and I wrote off the Soviet border situation as a geopolitical struggle for the nation to exist.
Actually, I must say that the Soviet Union saved many (minority) people from extinction.
Done.
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 232 of 995 (892483)
03-08-2022 9:38 AM
Reply to: Message 229 by Theodoric
03-08-2022 9:09 AM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
You ignore the democratically-elected majority view (see the ANC) which reflects black South Africans.
South African whites are the ones with YOUR views.
They are half as removed from forced-segregation as Mississippi whites are.
You ignore the views of minorities, because you feel "white is right", or at least "white is might".
You ignore them "because you can".
You agree with the white imperalistic order.
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 233 of 995 (892484)
03-08-2022 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 229 by Theodoric
03-08-2022 9:09 AM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
And I never said minority groups were not packed with members who held conservative views on a ton of issues.
(Not that I see this as some American "conservative" verses "liberal" issue, as it is a distraction)
I never said that there was some universal enlightenment, with some people.
I know that your imperialistic white policies are generally disliked in Africa.
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 234 of 995 (892485)
03-08-2022 10:38 AM


Theodoric tells us South African blacks are brainwashed dupes
The more salient point (Theodoric is an offensive liar, to start with, but lets look at salience) is that the ANC had the courage to represent the black majority constituency, due to its legendary moral high ground - recognized globally (though to the consternation of white imperialists).
The Western powers are trying to find a way to punish South Africa into submission.
See:
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
March 4, 2022
US backs EU Pressure on South Africa to Take...

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LamarkNewAge
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Message 237 of 995 (892489)
03-08-2022 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 235 by ringo
03-08-2022 10:58 AM


Re: South Africa has as many people as the UK.
Theodoric is all giddy about the Democratic Alliance party, which has severely attacked the ANC position on the Ukraine issue.
The Democratic Alliance is a majority white political party that got 20% of the vote in the 2019 South African national election. The ANC got 55%.
The Democratic Alliance is a "right wing" openly pro colonialism party.
Theodoric swallows the white imperalistic propaganda whole. Notice how he smears black South Africans. So do DA members of parliament.
The UN resolution was an illegitimate vote, because the worldwide non-white community had a white-imperialistic bullet held to its head.
South Africa is a profile in courage and a testament to the power of intelligent,independent thought.
South Africa is a beacon to human rights and human consciousness.
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 251 of 995 (892524)
03-08-2022 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 243 by Phat
03-08-2022 1:59 PM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
We are talking about Marxism.
If there ever was a "Marxist" government, then, like all parties, you would have a "left wing" and a "right wing", and it would be a salient distinction on economic policy. I would be on the "right wing" of the Marxist spectrum. My so-called "Marxism" would be limited to keeping as much land as possible in "public hands" (i.e. the government).
Someday, Africa is at risk to be swallowed up by greedy "land claimers", not that it has not already happened.
I would allow the "western" private land-ownership system to only be able to claim perhaps 5-10% of the African landmass. The rest would be in government hands, and available for future distribution.
I am "Marxist" due to the strict anti-nationalism. All rights belong to all peoples. No national divisions allowed. The strick Marxist-rights have real reeth to them. NO PAPER TIGER "ALL MEN", LIKE THE ESSENTIALLY MEANINGLESS U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL TEXT.
(I care little about the Marxist term "worker". Replace it with "human".)
Lennin was in favor of an urgent world socialist revolution. Trotsky too. They would have been a disaster. Lenin died early enough that the brilliant Stalin too over soon enough. He changed "Leninist" world designs in no time, and thetecwas no time to loose. "Socialism in one country" (Russia/Soviet Union) saved the Marxist nation from being invaded by hostile Western powers who would have felt severely threatened by an ideology that the West already despised.
Stalins purges were probably necessary to keep the Trotskyist lunatics from coming to power. If they did, then Red Russia would never survive long. In turn, Hitler would have not had the Soviet enemy that decisively defeated him.
The world would be living under the German Swastika and many peoples would be extinct.
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LamarkNewAge
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Message 260 of 995 (892548)
03-09-2022 8:37 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by Phat
03-09-2022 8:08 PM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
I am a "Marxist" in name only.
My land appropriation (if it is even that) is a fantasy.
And my land policies have nothing to do with Marxism.
(They might dovetail, however)
You might not have been born, if not for Stalin. I was born in 1977. I doubt I would have been born, if not for Stalin. Aside from metaphysical theories, we would all have failed to come to be, if not for Stalin.
I am a "Marxist forever", just because I existed from 1977 to 2022. My existence cannot be taken away, no matter how hard somebody - NOW - trys.
Roadbumps, like Finland, were driven over
But, today:
Will the ANC even accomplish its weak land-reform policies?
Winnie Mandela hates how her husband made an honor-bound agreement to drop Marxist land-policy from the ANC platform.
The ANC is a watered-down party, but right-wingers still don't feel like he has compromised enough.
(Read the EvC posts for proof of that)

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