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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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We can't really do anything about #TuckyRose but we can humiliate him. Then again it is not possible for him to feel humiliation.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie? |
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
#TzarVladimirTheCondemned can not crash the US dollar.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Read the quote from Hitchens in my signature.
Link to your sources. Still waiting for a source on the oil claims. Seems weird that you know exactly what Putin is thinking. Surprised US intelligence hasn't contacted you yet. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
If we survive 30 years what makes you think oil we have a lot of value? Have you heard of whale oil or even coal? At one time there was a thriving market in buggy whips. In 1870 that would have been thought to be a decent investment. You are incapable of seeing past your next purchase of something.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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It won't work if the *U.S.* doesn't have a primary say and veto power within it.
Then it would be US hegemony, wouldn't it? Why should the US be in charge?
we become a country of second class citizens.
We already are. Thanks to right-wing policies that give everything to the wealthy.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
When is the line crossed? What do we do? I have no answers. Just outrage right now.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie? |
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Make yourself look at the pictures and videos coming out. We cannot understand the horror unless we see it with our own eyes.
Evgeny Finkel is a political scientist and historian at Johns Hopkins University. He holds a Bachelor of Arts in political science and international relations from Hebrew University of Jerusalem and a PhD in political science from University of Wisconsin-Madison.
Edited by Theodoric, : SubtitleWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie? |
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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The Aussies step up.
People always claim we need to learn from history. Well history shows that if we allow a murderous thug to wage war, things just get worse no matter how much he is appeased We can wish all we want but hoping he and his murderous, child-raping thugs go away won't make it so. The last time the world thought they could make a murderous thug quietly go away 80 million people died. Does anyone really think Putin is better or more rational? I have no answers but doing nothing and having people in our own country praise this murderous thug is not an answer. iviewWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie? |
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
I have no idea but I fear we are close to finding out. Not responding decisively is not an option.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Retired General Wesley Clark thinks we either face the devil now or face him later in a much worse situation.
quote: The time to arm Ukraine is right now: Crucial window for Kyiv and the worldWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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Why is everything about christian "persecution" to you? The only people persecuting christians seem to be other christians.
Edited by Theodoric, : PunctuationWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
I read that earlier today. Amazing and insightful.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
So what do you think we should change in light of this new threat?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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I am more on Percy's side on this. I learned in the last couple of weeks that my love of humanity is stronger than my hate of war. The atrocities committed demand a response. Yes, I understand Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, the Rohingya, and multitudes of other people and places. But using those examples is a fallacious argument. We are talking about Ukraine.
There is a time to stand up to a bully and a horde. Maybe he will stop in the Donbas, maybe he will stop with Ukraine. Maybe he won't. What do you say next time? History shows that there is always a next time. The threat of nuclear war is real. The threat is there whether we intervene more heavily or not. I refuse to look back in 20 years and listen to people say "If we only had known about the atrocities". We know. Our humanity demands we do something. Our humanity demands we take the risk. You will not convince me otherwise. So be respectful or be ignored. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
Germany and France seem to be the most reticent.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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