The War in Europe

It is rather hilarious that you follow that sentence with a bunch of propaganda. They banned the pro-Russian parties. Not exactly shocking given how hard the Ukrainians fought to get rid of the previous Russian puppet government that was effectively a kleptocracy. Is it so terrible that a country wants to protect its sovereignty by removing influence from other countries, not to mention the systemic corruption?By the way, there were 349 registered and legal political parties in Ukraine as of 2020. Any evidence of this whatsoever? Yes, by invading Russian soldiers. That's on the list of known Russian misinformation.

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In his announcement of the invasion, Putin baselessly claimed that Ukraine was carrying out genocide in the mainly Russian-speaking Donbas region.[68] He said the purpose of Russia's "military operation" was to "protect the people" of the Russian-controlled breakaway republics of Donetsk and Luhansk. Putin claimed they had been facing "genocide perpetrated by the Kyiv regime" for eight years.[68] There is no evidence for Putin's claims of genocide, and they have been widely rejected as an excuse to justify invasion.[68][69][70][4][71][72]
Disinformation in the Russian invasion of Ukraine - Wikipedia

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You are spreading known Russian propaganda. Deal? A foreign country invades and takes part of your country, and you make a "deal" for them to keep it?Do you work at a Russian propaganda farm?

You know nothing about killed Ukrainians.I filled an entire load of 100 loose-leaf papers, with Ukraine's dead. I need to find it.All from mainstream sources.The last truly democratically elected leader of Ukraine got run out of the country 10 years ago.He did not cheat to win, when he won. Everybody got to vote.He was actually as moderate as they come. As pragmatic as they comeHe says Russia is NOT to blame for this mess.

Are you saying no mainstream sources will report on Ukraine killing Mayors?It's own citizens.Do you deny such?

Source?

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

Who? Yanukovych? Are you kidding me?Do you mean the Russian puppet who escaped to Russia after all of his corruption was uncovered?And cheating on elections?

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The Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe confirmed witness accounts of voters being blocked from access to polls and being attacked along with local election officials who tried to frustrate the Berkut's practice of falsifying voters' ballots in favor of Yanukovych's Party of Regions candidates. Individual cases have been reported of citizens grouping together and fighting back against the Berkut in order to preserve election integrity and results.[182] Upon coming to power Yanukovych had reversed oversight measures established during the Yushchenko administration to restrain the Berkut's abuse of citizens whereupon the special force "upped its brutality."[183]
Viktor Yanukovych - Wikipedia

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Yanukovych used violence against voters and election officials to gain power. Do you work for the Russian government?Added in edit:

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Yanukovych and his associates, known as ‘the Family’, are believed to have embezzled as much as $37 billion and stashed it in bank accounts and company shares around the world, including in EU countries such as Austria, Latvia, Cyprus, Italy, and the Netherlands.

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Viktor Yanukovych: corruption, opulence and decadence in Ukraine - Transparency International EU

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Who? Source?

Ready, retard?I said, "Are you ready"?You better respond when I post it.I was going to wait.Here is one:Volodymyr Struck.Taq already said "kleptocracy" is an excuse for outlawing parties and politicians.
(Read what he said closely)He then said supporting "Russian propaganda" is a reason for bans.THE ISSUE IS NOT RUSSIATHE ISSUE US UKRAINE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ETHNIC RUSSIANSRUSSIA does not want the eastern provinces to be part of Russia. The ethnic Russians want freedom and probably autonomy. After the bloodshed, they possibly want an independent nation

Ukraine killed one of its own.And the list is longerMuch longer...

I was actually asking who the last democratically elected leader was, but my fault for not being clear of what rambling I was responding to.
As for Struk you might want to actually spell his name correctly. As all you have done is provide a name, I will not bother responding on the issue. Remember, what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

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When former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych fled the country following the 2014 Maidan revolution, Ukrainian citizens who stormed his Mezhyhirya mansion discovered a palace of cartoonish opulence with guilded bathrooms, a private zoo, and a floating restaurant in the shape of a pirate ship. A good illustration of this extravagance is the $11 million he allegedly paid for a chandelier and his seven tablecloths worth a staggering $13,000.

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This private opulence was all paid for with public money. Embezzlement in the Yanukovych era is said to have taken the form of theft, corruption in public procurement, rigged energy prices, and misuse of carbon-emissions allowances.

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Yanukovych and his associates, known as ‘the Family’, are believed to have embezzled as much as $37 billion and stashed it in bank accounts and company shares around the world, including in EU countries such as Austria, Latvia, Cyprus, Italy, and the Netherlands.
Viktor Yanukovych: corruption, opulence and decadence in Ukraine - Transparency International EU

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I would call embezzlement of 37 billion to be an issue. Acting on behalf of Russia is a good reason for bans. That's an internal Ukrainian issue. It's their country. It is not a justification for invasion.Yes, there is tension between the parts of Ukraine, but that is for Ukraine to deal with. They are a sovereign country. And yes, Russia does want that land, and all of Ukraine. They want all of the territory that was once controlled by the former USSR. They will spread disinformation and propaganda to meet those goals, and you swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

The same thing about corruption is said about every leader - even Zelinski.Your selective examples of possibilities of election interference, are quite pathetic.I thought you could do better than that.Nobody questions his 2010 win, btw(I plan a longer response to you later)
(On all of your posts)

So you don't deny massive corruption on the part of Yanukovych?Instead, you try to cover it up by making baseless allegations about others?

The corruption is almost off topic.
This is boring, typical stuff.The election issues do not concern his win.It concerns various local events, and he is accused of not doing enough to stop it.He is/was a pragmatist and HINT HINT:Any claims that he was trying to inflame a delicate society is probably propaganda.Just common sense...

then they should fuck off out of them and let Ethnic russians there deal with Ukraine themselves.