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Message 11 of 257 (893474)
04-14-2022 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by candle2
04-14-2022 10:29 AM


You've certainly never even read the Bible it seems.

Your a classic example of the Christian Cult of Ignorance and Dishonesty.


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Message 21 of 257 (893532)
04-15-2022 8:04 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by AZPaul3
04-15-2022 7:52 PM


On Genesi 1
The problem is that folk like candle are totally and willfully ignorant about what the Bible co0nsists of or was written to explain. He seems to thing that Genesis 1 is actually about creation when the reality is that it was a far more recent human creation than Genesis 2&3 and that it's purpose was to justify and market the concept of a six day week and a Sabbath. Everything else including the God character in the Genesis 1 fable is simply a plot device designed to help maintain a 'Hebrew' identity separate from the other accepted and far more attractive religions during the Babylonian exile.

Candle is simply a pitiful example of the Christian Cult of Willful Ignorance and Deceit.

It's sad that so much of modern Christianity is simply the product of lies and willful ignorance.


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Message 33 of 257 (893564)
04-16-2022 2:48 PM
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04-16-2022 1:08 PM


Yes, you are willfully ignorant and willfully dishonest about just about everything including reality and Christianity.

What anyone else does has no bearing on the fact that a vast majority of modern Christianity including almost all US based Evangelical Christianity is simply willful igno0rance and Deceit.

The fact is your list was and is simply another example of the deceit called Creationism.

You understanding of Genesis 1 is simply another example of the deceit that is the defining characteristic of the Christian Cult of Ignorance and Deceit.

You current are simply pitiful but there is still hope that you might first learn the techniques and process of thinking.

As a Christian I hold out hope for you but honestly it is a faint hope.


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Message 40 of 257 (893590)
04-17-2022 10:03 AM
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04-17-2022 9:55 AM


Why do you insist on trying to market a perversion of Christianity and the stories which got included in your Canon?

Is there some reason you want everyone to think Christians are simply total and complete imbeciles and Carny Freak Show Barkers?


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Message 52 of 257 (893613)
04-17-2022 2:23 PM
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04-17-2022 12:51 PM


Candle, stop acting like the complete ass you have shown so far.

Learn the very basics.

We do not know how life got started yet.

It really is that simple.

Adults are willing to admit there are things they do not know unlike you who simply make shit up.

AbE:

One thing I have learned is that every living thing on the Earth that we have ever examined is just made from non-living stuff.

Edited by jar, : applin spallin

Edited by jar, : see AbE

Edited by jar, : still more applin spallin


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Message 58 of 257 (893670)
04-18-2022 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by dwise1
04-17-2022 11:15 PM


candle is a pitifull example of Christianity
He claims to be a Bible believing Christian yet thinks there is a god of the bible.

First, there is no such thing as "The Bibleā„¢". There are numerous Canons and each has a book they cal the Bible, yet they are all different collects of stories. The shortest Canon has only the first five book of the Old Testament while the largest Canon has over eighty books.

Second, if he had ever honestly read the Bible he would know that the description show not one god but rather each god that the author of that particular story wanted to create.

The god of Genesis 1 and the god found in Genesis 2&3 are mutually exclusive, two entirely different critters.

The god found in Genesis 1 is totally competent, creating without hesitation simply by will but also aloof, apart and having no interaction whatsoever with the creations. Once done he says that's good enough and takes a nap.

The god created by the author(s) of Genesis 2&3 though is not totally competent, learning by trial and error and not creating by will alone or without hesitation and trepidation, using whatever is handy and somewhat bumbling and unsure. But this god is not aloof, not apart and does interact with the creations.

Two entirely different gods created to serve two entirely different purposes.

He is still thinking like a child and has never put aside his childish things.


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Message 69 of 257 (893778)
04-19-2022 7:17 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Taq
04-19-2022 6:51 PM


Taq writes:

Evolution zealots say that vestigial structure
are proof that evolution is true. What a crock.
why would evolutionary processes have created
these structures in the first place if they were
not needed?

They were needed when they first evolved. They become rudimentary once they are no longer needed.

Plus, errors happen. If the errors are not so serious that they keep the critter from living long enough to reproduce, then it's likely that the error will get passed on to future generations.

Evolution does not work by creating changes that are needed rather it works by keeping those changes that just happen to give the critter an advantage and not passing on those changes that would be too harmful.


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Message 73 of 257 (893791)
04-20-2022 11:02 AM
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04-20-2022 10:51 AM


Re: What Evolution Does Teach
Remember that it is NOT just evolution.

They are willfully clueless about Christianity, about how Bibles were created, about what Jesus is quoted as telling folk to do and not do and even about who is supposed to be saying stuff in the stories.

All of Evangelical Conservative Christianity is a mansion built not just on sand but un-compacted soil, a mansion which must collapse if ever touched by honesty, reality or reason.

This is why they have created their own Avoidance System designed to prevent any contact with any breathe of clean air which will collapse the mansion.

It is the Christian Cult of Ignorance a Deceit.


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Message 83 of 257 (893834)
04-20-2022 7:09 PM
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04-20-2022 6:20 PM


Pogroms are US
Christianity has always been willing to adopt any religion and re-brand it as their own. Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, any excuse to party and nothing says party like pogroms and witch hunts.

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Message 90 of 257 (893867)
04-21-2022 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by AZPaul3
04-21-2022 3:35 PM


Re: Proof Here! Get your Proof Here!
Actually, there is no need for him to ditch religion or even ditch Christianity. He just needs to ditch the Christian Cult of Ignorance and Deceit.

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Message 92 of 257 (893870)
04-21-2022 5:05 PM


Why treat a non-disease as though it were a disease?

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Message 105 of 257 (893897)
04-22-2022 3:02 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by candle2
04-22-2022 2:27 PM


There is nothing in your post except yet more evidence of the Christian Cult of Ignorance and Deceit taking pieces parts out of context like Carny Barkers.

I believe you are a Christian but it is obvious that you are totally clueless about what message is given in all of the various Bibles.

Typical and pitiful.

You are just a Goat!


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Message 109 of 257 (893901)
04-22-2022 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by candle2
04-22-2022 4:30 PM


Topic
Even if anything in your post was more than just typical Christian Quote Mining and taking pieces parts out of context there was still absolutely nothing relevant to the topic.

Why is it the all of you Christian Cult of Ignorance and Deceit members are incapable of even understanding what might be relevant or at least interesting in the context of a topic?


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Message 112 of 257 (893904)
04-22-2022 7:18 PM
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04-22-2022 6:43 PM


Yawn.

Topic.

Why are you incapable of even address the subject?


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Message 120 of 257 (893926)
04-23-2022 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by Tanypteryx
04-23-2022 3:42 PM


Tanypteryx writes:

And the evidence, in every field of science just keeps building. Hundreds of different specialized branches of science all find evidence supporting the fact that all life on this planet today is the result of thousands of millions (billions) of years of evolution.

It's even worse than that.

It is not just every field of science but also EVERY different independent method of measuring supporting the fact that all life on this planet today is the result of thousands of millions (billions) of years of evolution.


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