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Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4443 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 2161 of 2932 (902626)
11-25-2022 6:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 2159 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 6:13 PM
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Re: Kleinman still cannot tell the difference between asexual & sexuaual
Conman the Bullshitter writes: Is that what the bugs teach you? Is that what the thermodynamics of shit bacteria taught you? Nothing but bullshit from Conman the Bullshit Peddler.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 2162 of 2932 (902628)
11-25-2022 6:35 PM
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Reply to: Message 2160 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 6:14 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
I know one expert in thermodynamics. He is a a Ph.D in.phydics and Nissan a Professor of Physics. Do.you think you are an expert of Thermodynamics?
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman still cannot tell the difference between asexual & sexuaual
Kleinman:
Is that what the bugs teach you?Tanypteryx:
Is that what the thermodynamics of shit bacteria taught you? Nothing but bullshit from Conman the Bullshit Peddler.
Poor Tany, he didn't learn any thermodynamics from his bugs and he didn't learn any thermodynamics in his biology classes. No wonder he can't do the physics and mathematics of biological evolution.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Theodoric:
I know one expert in thermodynamics. He is a a Ph.D in.phydics and Nissan a Professor of Physics.
Do.you think you are an expert of Thermodynamics?
Does he know that it takes energy to replicate?
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4443 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 2165 of 2932 (902633)
11-25-2022 6:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 2163 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 6:46 PM
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Re: Kleinman still cannot tell the difference between asexual & sexuaual
I couldn't help but notice that you still cannot tell us anything about thermodynamics, just peddling more meaningless bullshit. Next he will tell us more about Gypsies creating all the fossils and how he has thousands of citations for his vanity papers.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty PythonOne important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman still cannot tell the difference between asexual & sexuaual
Tanypteryx:
I couldn't help but notice that you still cannot tell us anything about thermodynamics, just peddling more meaningless bullshit. Next he will tell us more about Gypsies creating all the fossils and how he has thousands of citations for his vanity papers.
The poor bug chaser hasn't learned any thermodynamics from his bugs and he hasn't learned any thermodynamics from his biology instructors. That's why he can't explain the physics and mathematics of biological evolution. Poor Tany.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 2167 of 2932 (902641)
11-25-2022 10:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 2164 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 6:48 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Again you don't answer. Must mean you do know the answer or you you may lie. Fraud, liar and troll. I am sure he knows more about it than you.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Theodoric:
Again you don't answer. Must mean you do know the answer or you you may lie. Fraud, liar and troll.
I am sure he knows more about it than you.
I wonder if he knows that the carrying capacity is the total amount of usable energy for populations.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2169 of 2932 (902654)
11-26-2022 10:39 AM
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Reply to: Message 2141 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 1:13 PM
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Re: Kleinman Admits He's A Fraud.
Kleinman writes: You keep claiming that biologists have explained how antimicrobial drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. They have not explained it.
And that has nothing to do with what I said in the post you replied to. I said:
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The consensus seems to be that YOUR math is wrong - and that's because your biology is wrong. Nobody has a problem with the REAL math.
Nothing about antimicrobial drug resistance. If you're going to be evasive, at least don't be so transparently dishonest about it.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2170 of 2932 (902655)
11-26-2022 10:42 AM
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Reply to: Message 2142 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 1:14 PM
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Re: Kleinman Admits He's A Fraud.
Kleinman writes: o, post a link written by a biologist that explains how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
I googled it. There doesn't seem to be any shortage of explanations.
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2171 of 2932 (902656)
11-26-2022 10:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 2143 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 1:16 PM
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Re: Resorting to spamming us
Kleinman writes: You had an impressive instructor.
He even lent me a textbook for the more advanced class.
Kleinman writes: The thermodynamics that applies to competition is pretty simple.
It remains to be seen if anything is simple enough for you to understand. Do you understand yet that A → B and A → C are NOT the same as B → C ?
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2172 of 2932 (902657)
11-26-2022 10:52 AM
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Reply to: Message 2144 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 1:17 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleunman writes: Now show us how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatment fail.
You're not ready for that yet. First, do you understand yet that you are wrong about B evolving into C?
Kleinman writes: Maybe you better go to the letter "E" for the Kishony experiment.
I was thinking of using A for ancestor, B for birds and R for reptiles, but you haven't demonstrated yet that you understand A, B and C. Do you understand yet that you are wrong about B evolving into C?
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2173 of 2932 (902658)
11-26-2022 10:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 2145 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 1:17 PM
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Re: Kleinman still does not know asexual vs sexual
Klein writes: So, show us how you do the mathematics of recombination in a population.
You're not ready for the mathematics until you understand the difference between asexual and sexual reproduction. (I presume you're not a gynecologist.)
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 2174 of 2932 (902659)
11-26-2022 10:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 2164 by Kleinman
11-25-2022 6:48 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not know asexual vs sexual
Kleinman writes: Does he know that it takes energy to replicate?
Do you know that living things take in energy from their environment?
Come all of you cowboys all over this land,
I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command:
To hold a six shooter, and never to run
As long as there's bullets in both of your guns.
-- Woody Guthrie
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 362 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 2175 of 2932 (902668)
11-26-2022 11:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 2169 by ringo
11-26-2022 10:39 AM
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Re: Kleinman Admits He's A Fraud.
Kleinman:
You keep claiming that biologists have explained how antimicrobial drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. They have not explained it.ringo:
And that has nothing to do with what I said in the post you replied to. I said:
ringo:
The consensus seems to be that YOUR math is wrong - and that's because your biology is wrong. Nobody has a problem with the REAL math.ringo:
Nothing about antimicrobial drug resistance.
If you're going to be evasive, at least don't be so transparently dishonest about it.
Yeah, sure.
Message 2170Kleinman:
o, post a link written by a biologist that explains how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
ringo:
I googled it. There doesn't seem to be any shortage of explanations.
That's why you post all zero of your links.
Message 2121Kleinman:
You had an impressive instructor.ringo:
He even lent me a textbook for the more advanced class.
He should have read it himself, then he would know something about thermodynamics. You obviously didn't read it.
Kleinman:
The thermodynamics that applies to competition is pretty simple.ringo:
It remains to be seen if anything is simple enough for you to understand.
Do you understand yet that A → B and A → C are NOT the same as B → C ?
You have confused the thermodynamics of competition with the thermodynamics of descent with modification.
Message 2172Kleinman:
Now show us how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatment fail.
ringo:
You're not ready for that yet. First, do you understand yet that you are wrong about B evolving into C?
I'm sure you can make the physics and mathematics clear enough so even Tany can understand it.
Kleinman:
Maybe you better go to the letter "E" for the Kishony experiment.ringo:
I was thinking of using A for ancestor, B for birds and R for reptiles, but you haven't demonstrated yet that you understand A, B and C.
Do you understand yet that you are wrong about B evolving into C?
What if your birds and reptiles don't use the English alphabet?
Message 2173Kleinman:
So, show us how you do the mathematics of recombination in a population.ringo:
You're not ready for the mathematics until you understand the difference between asexual and sexual reproduction. (I presume you're not a gynecologist.)
Come on, you can show us how alleles are shuffled.
Message 2174Kleinman:
Does he know that it takes energy to replicate?
ringo:
Do you know that living things take in energy from their environment?
You can explain that to us, right after you post a link that shows how drug resistance occurs and why cancer treatments fail. You know, all the links you found in your Google search.
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