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Author Topic:   Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
dwise1
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Message 2296 of 2932 (902844)
11-27-2022 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 2293 by Kleinman
11-27-2022 9:13 PM


Re: Usable energy
Too bad you can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatment fails. Who expects a C++ programmer to explain that?
You do, you fucking idiot! That's what most of your 1400 posts of recycled garbage have been demanding of us! That's all you've been trying to do here!
What the hell is wrong with you?
Oh yeah, you're a creationist. You creationists are very badly damaged.

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dwise1
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Message 2297 of 2932 (902845)
11-27-2022 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 2294 by Kleinman
11-27-2022 9:16 PM


Re: Licensed to Bull
I think you would play the perfect monkey in a Scopes monkey trial redo.
You're so stupid you don't even know what the Scopes trial was.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2298 of 2932 (902846)
11-27-2022 9:44 PM
Reply to: Message 2297 by dwise1
11-27-2022 9:20 PM


Re: Licensed to Bull
You're so stupid you don't even know what the Scopes trial was
This may be true for Kleinman but with my wonderful beard, if I let my hair grow out again, I could make a most convincing and distinguished monkey.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Theodoric
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Message 2299 of 2932 (902849)
11-27-2022 10:02 PM
Reply to: Message 2288 by Kleinman
11-27-2022 8:28 PM


Re: A Simple Question
Messianic jews are not jews. It is impossible to be a jew and a christian at the same time. Tell me one mainstream jewish org that considers you cosplayers as Jews.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Kleinman
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Message 2300 of 2932 (902855)
11-28-2022 7:35 AM
Reply to: Message 2295 by AZPaul3
11-27-2022 9:18 PM


Re: Usable energy
Kleinman:
Too bad you can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatment fails.
AZPaul3:
Neither can you. You are a fake. A fraud.

Sure I can. For a single selection pressure, here's how drug resistance (and cancer) evolves:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And to multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
You have to find another reason to justify your atheism because UCD is false and biologists (and you) have failed to explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.

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Kleinman
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Message 2301 of 2932 (902856)
11-28-2022 7:37 AM
Reply to: Message 2296 by dwise1
11-27-2022 9:18 PM


Re: Usable energy
Kleinman:
Too bad you can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatment fails. Who expects a C++ programmer to explain that?
dwise1:
You do, you fucking idiot! That's what most of your 1400 posts of recycled garbage have been demanding of us! That's all you've been trying to do here!

You can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail using your skills as a C++ programmer so you try doing it with a foul mouth and that doesn't work. So here is how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And to multiple simultaneous selection pressures"
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
You have to find another reason to believe in your atheism because UCD is not true and you can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. Your C++ programming doesn't help. And don't worry, I'll post this as many times as a slow learner as you needs.

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Kleinman
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Message 2302 of 2932 (902857)
11-28-2022 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 2297 by dwise1
11-27-2022 9:20 PM


Re: Licensed to Bull
Kleinman:
I think you would play the perfect monkey in a Scopes monkey trial redo.
dwise1:
You're so stupid you don't even know what the Scopes trial was.

Why don't you file a complaint with the medical board or engineering board and find out since you want to play the monkey? I'm sure they will be interested in the following, for a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
Let's see who knows what the Scopes monkey trial is.

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Kleinman
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Message 2303 of 2932 (902858)
11-28-2022 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 2298 by AZPaul3
11-27-2022 9:44 PM


Re: Licensed to Bull
dwise1:
You're so stupid you don't even know what the Scopes trial was
AZPaul3:
This may be true for Kleinman but with my wonderful beard, if I let my hair grow out again, I could make a most convincing and distinguished monkey.

Now that would be amusing. A couple of atheists compete to be the monkey in the Scopes monkey trial. It's your turn dwise1.

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Kleinman
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Message 2304 of 2932 (902859)
11-28-2022 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 2299 by Theodoric
11-27-2022 10:02 PM


Re: A Simple Question
Theodoric:
Messianic jews are not jews. It is impossible to be a jew and a christian at the same time. Tell me one mainstream jewish org that considers you cosplayers as Jews.
The great and wise Theodoric has spoken. He knows all except how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. He needs some help in this area. For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
Do you atheists understand, rubberbands. You are wrong in so many ways.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2305 of 2932 (902860)
11-28-2022 7:52 AM
Reply to: Message 2300 by Kleinman
11-28-2022 7:35 AM


Re: Usable energy
You have to find another reason to justify your atheism because UCD is false and biologists (and you) have failed to explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
Liar.
Only in your fantasy world where you can be the hero. In the real world we know how these things work.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Kleinman
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Message 2306 of 2932 (902862)
11-28-2022 8:06 AM
Reply to: Message 2305 by AZPaul3
11-28-2022 7:52 AM


Re: Usable energy
Kleinman:
You have to find another reason to justify your atheism because UCD is false and biologists (and you) have failed to explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.
AZPaul3:
Liar.

Only in your fantasy world where you can be the hero. In the real world we know how these things work.

Yeah, sure you know how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. Here are the mathematical explanations that atheists like you don't understand. For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
Whatever world you live in doesn't know how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. Let your hair grow and you can imagine you are a monkey.

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Theodoric
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Message 2307 of 2932 (902864)
11-28-2022 8:12 AM
Reply to: Message 2300 by Kleinman
11-28-2022 7:35 AM


Re: Usable energy
Even if you prove UCD and TOE false (which you have not) it does not mean creationism is true.
Creo fundies all seem to not understand that they still would need to find scientific evidence for their pet belief in order for it to take over. Also, Creos seem to lack an understanding of and the difference between TOE and the original formation of life. TOE and UCD say nothing about the original formation of life,

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Kleinman
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Message 2308 of 2932 (902865)
11-28-2022 8:25 AM
Reply to: Message 2307 by Theodoric
11-28-2022 8:12 AM


Re: Usable energy
Theodoric:
Even if you prove UCD and TOE false (which you have not) it does not mean creationism is true.
Creo fundies all seem to not understand that they still would need to find scientific evidence for their pet belief in order for it to take over. Also, Creos seem to lack an understanding of and the difference between TOE and the original formation of life. TOE and UCD say nothing about the original formation of life,
The great and wise Theodoric doesn't understand what the multiplication rule of probabilities does to evolution. That is why he has no idea how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. Let him read and learn. For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
Perhaps Theodoric wants to join the competition to be the monkey at the Scopes monkey trial with dwise1 and AZPaul3? He would make a wise monkey but he would be totally ignorant of how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail.

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Theodoric
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Message 2309 of 2932 (902867)
11-28-2022 8:54 AM


Kleinman's other mantra
Instead of actually addressing questions we get this.
quote:
no idea how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail
OM...

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Kleinman
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Message 2310 of 2932 (902869)
11-28-2022 9:27 AM
Reply to: Message 2309 by Theodoric
11-28-2022 8:54 AM


Re: Kleinman's other mantra
Theodoric:
Instead of actually addressing questions we get this.
Kleinman:
no idea how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail
Theodoric:
OM...


Oh great and wise Theodoric. This is how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. For a single selection pressure:
The basic science and mathematics of random mutation and natural selection
And for multiple simultaneous selection pressures:
The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance
It appears that the great and wise Theodoric want to talk about something else than the physics and mathematics of biological evolution. That's no surprise since the great and wise Theodoric knows nothing about the subject including how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. Try and stay on topic oh great and wise Theodoric. If you can't, I'll help you.

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