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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
I call them "pork sweepings". Made of cast-offs like any sausage. Disclaimer: Coming from a German background, I practically live on sausage... and I'm still alive. My brother used to say we couldn't afford real Spam; we only got artificial Spam.
AZPaul3 writes:
Apparently it's unusually popular in Hawaii: 9 Reasons Why Spam Became Hawaii’s Most Beloved Food And it's been on-and-off popular in world society since Hormel dropped its first can. And now, back to Kishony, Lenski and Desai. Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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It looks like AZPaul3 has found his calling. Go play in your room, Kleinman. The adults are talking here.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Kleinman writes: You are wrong Taq, descent with modification works the same way for sexual replicators as it does with asexual replicators. The one sentence that disqualifies Kleinman from commenting on evolution.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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Hawai'i and Spam are similar to why salted cod is a delicacy in Puerto Rico. Bacalao was a cheap food for the colonizers to send to the island. When the US took over in 1898 they proceeded to destroy the agriculture system on the island. The plan was to turn Puerto Ricans(after major depopulation of the island) int worker drones for the factories that US industry was going to open on the island. When this all failed, agriculture destroyed, few factories, attempt to sterilize vast majority of women stopped, the US military government realized they had to do something. Salt cod, Bacalao, was an answer.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
This is the thing I have been amazed about from the beginning. His inability to understand the vast difference between asexual and sexual. Maybe he is not familiar with sex in evolution or as a practical matter.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6
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Theodoric writes: This is the thing I have been amazed about from the beginning. His inability to understand the vast difference between asexual and sexual. Maybe he is not familiar with sex in evolution or as a practical matter. That's my suspicion. Even worse, he doesn't seem inclined to learn about sexual reproduction. It's almost as if he is trying to play the plausible deniability card. If he doesn't understand sexual reproduction then he can "plausibly" deny that his papers don't apply to all situations. That's probably why he refuses to engage with anything outside of his usual hobby horses. He can't venture outside of his own echo chamber. He can't even deal with a paper that discusses a beneficial mutation rate in E. coli of 1 in 10 million replications. His mind glitches and he does whatever he can to never address it. That's not part of the echo chamber, so he can't even begin to admit that it exists.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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Remember he has religious motivations to show the diversity of evolution genetically impossible. Like any creationist stance, he has to obfuscate and lie to maintain his delusion.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:It's not my homework, they are your imaginary links. Message 2401 AZPaul3:Oh boy, ringo is going to give the physical and mathematical explanations for the Kishony, Lenski, and Desai experiments!
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:Ok, everyone quiet, AZPaul3 is going to explain his research on Spam. Too bad it isn't biological evolution but that's too confusing for AZPaul3.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:Since you have never done the mathematics of descent with modification for asexual replicators, that obviously makes you an expert on descent with modification for sexual replicators. So tell us, how are new alleles created for sexual replicators
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Theodoric:If Theodoric can take some time away from Spam, perhaps he would explain how new alleles are created in sexual replicators.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Theodoric:We are waiting for you to explain to us how new alleles are created in sexual replicators.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 334 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
APaul3:Just because the physics, mathematics, and experimental and empirical evidence show that UCD is impossible, don't blame religion on your burst bubble. It was really a stupid idea, to begin with. Look at how you twist the fossil record to fit your illusions.
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Kleinman writes: We are waiting for you to explain to us how new alleles are created in sexual replicators. New alleles are created by mutation. Where asexual and sexual populations differ is how those beneficial mutations interact within the population.
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
Kleinman writes: Just because the physics, mathematics, and experimental and empirical evidence show that UCD is impossible, Your math is wrong because it does not incorporate sexual reproduction.
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