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Author Topic:   Is ID falsifiable by any kind of experiment?
Phat
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Message 101 of 507 (904122)
12-22-2022 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by AZPaul3
12-22-2022 6:59 AM


Re: ID About to Fail?
AZAntitheist writes:
Do you eat dead-jesus-meat crackers, too? That is a known mental impediment.
Oh brother!
Were that true, hundreds of millions of people would have a known and documented mental impediment. Define impediment, by the way. What specifically is belief in a higher power doing to our precious little human minds??

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Phat
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Message 155 of 507 (904413)
12-29-2022 8:49 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by MrIntelligentDesign
12-25-2022 10:30 PM


Re: Merry Trollmas
Mr.ID writes:
I am asking all of you is to kick Evolution out in science, society and in all schools, right now, and replace Evolution with Biological Interrelation, BiTs, since BiTs is the only correct theory for biology. If you will dis-agree, you must answer all questions and all challenges that the new model will throw at you. DO IT and win. Don't do it, and Evolution (will) lose.
Wait a minute! Since when does "science" kick a theory out? And since when does a theory suddenly become "the only correct theory"? You got a lot of 'splainin to do, Lucy.

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Message 217 of 507 (905120)
01-18-2023 2:40 PM
Reply to: Message 201 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-13-2023 9:13 PM


The Missing Link
Mr.ID writes:
Actually, AronRa replied in my comments in his YouTube video that linked here!
If you are impressed with your interaction with the Grand Poobah himself (Aron Ra) then show us this link. Personally, I am not impressed with Aron Ra, but would be curious to see the link myself.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 219 of 507 (905390)
01-25-2023 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 218 by dwise1
01-25-2023 1:33 PM


Re: The Missing Link
Thanks for that thoughtful post. I poked around a bit (not that im in any way interested in what Mr.ID has to say) and found one thing.
Not too impressive.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 220 of 507 (905391)
01-25-2023 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 208 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-14-2023 3:18 PM


Lost & Found
Did I find your video? Is that you in the previous post?

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 234 of 507 (905540)
01-30-2023 8:11 AM
Reply to: Message 233 by MrIntelligentDesign
01-30-2023 4:03 AM


Re: Lost & Found
Change...what is change in reality?
At my job, change comes out of the coin changer after one hands me X amount of dollars to pay for their groceries. Change is made up of Quarters, Dimes, Nickels and Pennies.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 240 of 507 (905556)
01-30-2023 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 239 by ringo
01-30-2023 12:21 PM


Re: Lost & Found
So in essence what you appear to be suggesting is that the reason that Mr.I D can attack evolutionary theory is because he essentially made his own straw man to knock down.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 262 of 507 (907202)
02-20-2023 8:33 AM
Reply to: Message 249 by AZPaul3
02-18-2023 1:07 PM


Quothe The Raven: Nevermore!
AZPaul3,replying to sensei writes:
I'm getting old and the constant repetition of the same stupid by you religious guys is too taxing on my old spirit.
That would make a perfect signature quote! You should use it

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Phat
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Message 275 of 507 (907451)
02-24-2023 8:21 AM
Reply to: Message 261 by Theodoric
02-20-2023 8:13 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Theodoric, addressing sensei writes:
We are not discussing creationists, we are discussing the term "evolutionist". I am not defending an argument. You made the claims, you need to provide definitions and support or crawl back under your rock.
I just want to know if we all agree on the basic terminology. Sensei, the ball is in your court.

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Phat
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Message 281 of 507 (907485)
02-24-2023 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 276 by Theodoric
02-24-2023 8:46 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Grumpy as usual. How about I exercise freedom of speech?

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Phat
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Message 313 of 507 (907665)
02-27-2023 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 308 by sensei
02-27-2023 12:54 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Sensei, don't stoop to their level. Let them insult and belittle you. Remain silent concerning personal remarks. I am learning that I myself do that when I react to a situation emotionally rather than respond rationally. And the same goes for us. If we have no evidence to support our claims, we can't win these arguments. (We can't lose either when it comes to proving the Spirit of Creativity. The burden is on them to dismiss it.) And they would be foolish to try. Some things have no obvious meaureable evidence.

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