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Message 353 of 507 (908156)
03-09-2023 5:04 AM
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03-08-2023 8:28 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Prove it or zip it!

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Message 354 of 507 (908157)
03-09-2023 5:05 AM
Reply to: Message 352 by Granny Magda
03-08-2023 9:06 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Reverting to making false claims now, aren't you?
As to be expected from an evolutionist.

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Message 357 of 507 (908179)
03-09-2023 11:01 AM
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03-09-2023 9:25 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Where is your proof?

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Message 358 of 507 (908180)
03-09-2023 11:06 AM
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03-09-2023 10:26 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Who asked you to explain science? You are a noob.
Just because you think it's the only way to do science, which is debatable, does not mean that you know how to handle it. You are full of ignorance if you think the methods are perfect and flawless.

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Message 362 of 507 (908193)
03-09-2023 12:21 PM
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03-09-2023 11:29 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
You prove again that you are noob. Science is not flawless. That is fact. If you refuse to accept that, then you are noob.
We use the tools that we have. We should be aware of its strengths and weaknesses. You are such an extremist fool who fails to understand this.

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Message 364 of 507 (908195)
03-09-2023 12:24 PM
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03-09-2023 12:18 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
I reject unsubstantiated claims that you make in the name of science. And I reject your misrepresentation of science.

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Message 367 of 507 (908198)
03-09-2023 12:25 PM
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03-09-2023 12:23 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Einstein used thought experiments. Physicists build mathematical models for quantum fields and particle interactions. Are those methods not science?

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Message 370 of 507 (908202)
03-09-2023 12:33 PM
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03-09-2023 12:25 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
You made claims that your model is correct because it is best fit. You seem to forget that a model is usually an estimate of some unknown. So even if you followed all the correct steps, which I doubt, it's still only a model.
Science does not work the way you present it here. We use models, and there is nothing wrong with that. But you take it too far, claiming that the models are absolute truth or something. They are not!

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Message 372 of 507 (908205)
03-09-2023 12:36 PM
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03-09-2023 12:32 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
I have nothing against using models and testing as tool. I have something against people drawing false conclusions from it.

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Message 375 of 507 (908215)
03-09-2023 12:49 PM
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03-09-2023 12:41 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Wrong. I reject your conclusions. Not the method of using models and predictions as one of the tools.

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Message 376 of 507 (908216)
03-09-2023 12:57 PM
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03-09-2023 12:44 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
You evolutionists seem to be doing it all the time here, claiming that the model is correct without doubt, because it fits data.

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Message 380 of 507 (908223)
03-09-2023 1:08 PM
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03-09-2023 1:04 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Wrong again. Your claim that a good fit means that the model is the best, that is poor logic.
Maximum likelihood estimates are not always best, for example.
That does not mean that I'm against maximum likelihood methods in general. That means that I understand the methods and their strength and weaknesses, while you just make poor claims about them.

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Message 383 of 507 (908240)
03-09-2023 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 381 by Taq
03-09-2023 1:11 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
If you only said that for the specified set of data, this hypothesis gives the best fit, then that would be fine. But you go further and claim that evolution universal common ancestry is a certainty.
That is not science. That is biased tunnel vision. I reject that.

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Message 384 of 507 (908241)
03-09-2023 3:32 PM
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03-09-2023 3:17 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Wrong. You don't seem to care about truth. But we knew that already.

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Message 387 of 507 (908248)
03-09-2023 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 385 by Taq
03-09-2023 3:36 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
This answers your message 377.

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