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Message 406 of 507 (908456)
03-15-2023 8:05 PM
Reply to: Message 405 by sensei
03-15-2023 7:59 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Tell me again.

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Message 414 of 507 (908563)
03-16-2023 6:33 PM
Reply to: Message 411 by sensei
03-16-2023 6:08 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
It does not prove relationship, period!
All of science disagrees with you. And, of course, we know your intellectual blind spot due to your strong religious bias.
The facts are quite clear. You are quite wrong.
And you still cannot produce this "evidence" of violations of common ancestry and the nested hierarchy in any life system you so boldly insist you have.
Why?
We know why. Such does not exist.
As I said earlier, this was your put-up or shut-up moment, sensei. And as I predicted you are incapable of either.

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AZPaul3
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Message 418 of 507 (908569)
03-16-2023 6:39 PM
Reply to: Message 416 by sensei
03-16-2023 6:34 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Your opinion and false claims are not important.
Not to you, obviously. Your world doesn't deal in reality.
As Taq has said, your inability to substantively address the evidence is noted.

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AZPaul3
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Message 420 of 507 (908575)
03-16-2023 6:47 PM
Reply to: Message 417 by sensei
03-16-2023 6:38 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
If you are under the illusion that life on earth is the only data that produces nesting, out of the countless of datasets that we have, you are more delusional than flat earthers.
Your opinion and false claims are not important.
All you do is repeating the same useless argument that science agrees with you. You have nothing useful to add.
That's because science does agree with us. Reality is all there is and needs nothing added. The issue is that YOU cannot show anything otherwise despite your insistence the science is wrong.

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Message 423 of 507 (908581)
03-16-2023 6:52 PM
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03-16-2023 6:50 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Evidence? What evidence?

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Message 432 of 507 (908775)
03-20-2023 1:19 PM
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03-18-2023 10:58 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
The truth is known. You just refuse to see it since it contradicts your religious fantasy.

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Message 441 of 507 (909572)
04-06-2023 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 440 by sensei
04-06-2023 12:52 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
How do you consider an illogical explanation to be the best?
Easy.
Despite your errant logic the processes are very logical and well understood. Most important, the data we have (all the data that ANYONE in the world can show) matches our observations and predictions meaning our model, our theory, is correct. In popular vernacular our theories of evolution, genetics, life, are proven true.
You have nothing to compete.

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Message 445 of 507 (910756)
05-11-2023 3:26 PM
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05-11-2023 2:45 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Such nonsense and bs.
Such an intellectual response.
The evidence we have, evidence you cannot begin to rebuff let alone match, is beyond reasonable doubt. The body of evidence is conclusive. And it is all there for you to see and learn. Nothing hidden, nothing invisible, nothing concealed from your tiny mind.
You cannot counter any of it. You have nothing in response except blind blanket denial.

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Message 451 of 507 (910855)
05-21-2023 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 448 by sensei
05-21-2023 9:37 AM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
Your denial of reality is, again, noted.
Get thee to a university and ask. The evidence is there for you to see, touch, measure. Once you study then you will know. Knowledge, like a tsunami, washes away everything not grounded in reality including your skydaddy and your anti-intelligence pseudo-science.

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Message 454 of 507 (910858)
05-21-2023 2:17 PM
Reply to: Message 452 by sensei
05-21-2023 2:06 PM


Re: dishonesty is not a good look
What I contribute is the fact that the information you say is non-existent is available at most any university in the world. All you need do is go look.
Your conjectures, however, have no information available to study because they are without realistic foundation. They exist only in your fantasy world.
We can show actual physical evidence. You can't.
We can show the reality of this universe. You can't.

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Message 462 of 507 (910875)
05-22-2023 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 461 by sensei
05-22-2023 6:38 PM


Re: Moderator On Duty
Well, evolutionists here seem to believe that universal common ancestry is as sure as fact, with "overwhelming" evidence.
And so it is.
Everybody who does not share this view, is seen as inferior and treated as such, with non-stop insults and what not.
Rightfully so.
Claiming that universal ancestry is a sure fact, is a bold claim.
Facts are bold like that. Especially when the force of so many facts is conclusive.
People need to back it up, with more than appealing to authority of "scientist experts".
I tried not to insult but this is just so fucking stupid. You don't know what an appeal to authority fallacy is.
The fallacy comes in when you cite someone who IS NOT AN EXPERT in this field. Appeal to your barber as an authority on genetics. That is the fallacy.
Citing actual experts is no fallacy. It is information. It is evidence.
And here are 600,000 science experts, true authorities in the field, all with evidence of common ancestry just as our science says. Your worst nightmare. Real evidence of common ancestry.
And here you have nothing in return.
Most of the support for the evolution narrative is based on finding similar species and then assuming that there was a common origin. Well, finding similar things, does not mean common origin in general. So the logic of this reasoning is used very inconsistently.
You haven't read the papers, above. The evidence of common ancestry is much deeper than your false surface strawman claim of assumptions.
Read them, sensei. Actually learn something.

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Message 467 of 507 (910888)
05-23-2023 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 465 by sensei
05-23-2023 7:17 PM


Re: Moderator On Duty
If all you can do, is appealing to authority, without putting up your own argument, you are hardly contributing and not worhtwhile.
Science works because it relies on the overwhelming consensus of the knowledgeable authorities. This is a human process. Science is the consensus of the human authorities.
You're reaching for some useless semantic victory here.
Beside, I don't have the expertise to add to what the scientific literature already knows. Neither do you.
Have you read all those papers yourself?
A few ... in prep for this discussion. But I'm not the one in doubt. All this new stuff only shows what we already knew to be the case 100+ years ago. I had in mind challenging your understanding of what the papers actually said but then dwise1 an Percy chimed in and, they are right, you're not worth the effort.
So far, you haven't seen you being able to use or apply much of it, other than trying to insist on how great you think your papers and your experts are.
I'm not going to reinvent this wheel for your entertainment. And, yes, indeed, these papers are some of the greatest achievements in human intellect. They stand on their own and need no verification from me or from you.
Note in comparison all the evidence you bring in opposition. None but your personal incredulity and gross misunderstandings of what common ancestry, in fact, is.

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