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Phat
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Message 1 of 188 (904176)
12-22-2022 11:17 PM


This news in from Denver.
Denver Post:
A historic Siberian cold front blasted Colorado with subzero temperatures and bone-rattling wind chills Thursday, laying waste to holiday travel plans and shutting down major thoroughfares, as city officials scrambled to open enough warming shelters to protect people from the vicious elements.
Temperatures at Denver International Airport dropped to minus 24 degrees Thursday morning, marking the coldest December day since 1990 and 1 degree away from setting a record low for the month, according to the National Weather Service in Boulder.
The 75-degree temperature drop from Wednesday’s high to Thursday’s low was the second-largest two-day swing on record in Denver, according to the weather service. And it came with about 4 inches of fresh snow.

I stayed in all day and just slept. My heater doesn't work right and I need to buy a new one on Amazon.

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Message 34 of 188 (904406)
12-29-2022 7:26 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by marc9000
12-28-2022 9:42 PM


Re: Midwest unprepared
nwr writes:
Right wingers are the primary users of scare tactics.
Thus far, *we* the people have no definite gauge as to who employs scare tactics and who (which ideology in power at the moment) actually *does* scary things. I have rightly been accused of listening to You Tube videos which themselves are often sensationalist. Without dragging this topic (another Climate Change/Global warming one?) off, I will redirect this rabbit trail here.
marc9000, I want your opinion, but lets discuss it over in Testing The Financial Apologists. Message 128

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Message 40 of 188 (904435)
12-30-2022 1:33 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Theodoric
12-29-2022 11:45 PM


Re: Midwest unprepared
Theo,addressing marc9000 writes:
You have just proven you are an idiot. What laws are you yammering about?
It seems to me that he is calling out a Democratic government for passing laws for the all-inclusive "good of the people." In short, an authoritarian government.

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Phat
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Message 54 of 188 (904572)
01-02-2023 8:16 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by dwise1
12-30-2022 3:14 AM


Re: Midwest unprepared
Actually, I have read that book, but not in some time.
Need I defend myself, I am not an extreme Right Winger politically. I never liked Trump, although ringo accuses me of following in his footsteps.
For the record, I am pro-private property rights, and pro-business over government monopoly of technology(I know that you were ex-military and so can see the other side of that argument)
You all might be interested in my recent topic: Message 1

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 55 of 188 (904574)
01-02-2023 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Taq
12-30-2022 11:04 AM


Its The Science, Stupid
marc9000 writes:
Oil is a substance. It's a lubricant, it's needed in the manufacture of rubber and plastic products, and has many other uses, it's not only burned for energy. Nuclear and fission and all of that are just energy, not physical substances.
Taq writes:
BURNING FOSSIL FUELS IS THE PROBLEM? Understand?
I think what marc9000 is trying to say is that he opposes "the government" shutting down the oil and gas industry so rapidly when the US still needs oil on many other levels than simply burning it for energy.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 56 of 188 (904575)
01-02-2023 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 46 by xongsmith
12-30-2022 4:25 PM


Re: Midwest unprepared
xongsmith, addressing marc9K writes:
i think the changes to renewable energies will take time and the CEOs who haven't already built up stockpiles of alternate stocks will go the way of the horse and buggy whip industry.
Again, looking at it from what I think marc9K's view is, we are worried that an overzealous government, acting "for the good of the people", is destroying the oil and gas industry and that the issue is not so much about fossil fuels. We realize that fossil fuel needs will and even *should* be downsized. We are more concerned with the government's authoritarian mandate to shut down the "fossil fuel" industry too rapidly. As marc has tried to point out, this industry is involved in a lot more industries than simply gasoline and heating oil. Big government has no power to change and shape society without the private industries which gave the nation its power in the first place.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 72 of 188 (904641)
01-03-2023 11:24 PM
Reply to: Message 70 by ringo
01-03-2023 10:58 AM


Re: Midwest unprepared
Watch the Social Dilemma. It's a good documentary

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 74 of 188 (904643)
01-04-2023 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by Theodoric
01-03-2023 11:28 PM


Re: Midwest unprepared
There are good reasons to warn people about dangerous things.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 77 of 188 (904660)
01-04-2023 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by ringo
01-04-2023 11:03 AM


Re: Midwest unprepared
ringo writes:
Climate change will kill everybody equally.
True enough. This does not mean that we collectively need to morph towards a one-world "democratic" government that markets itself "for the good of all people". People are fickle. There should always be at least a two-party system.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Message 97 of 188 (904917)
01-11-2023 1:57 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by ringo
01-11-2023 11:13 AM


Re: Midwest unprepared
You cant very well mandate electric vehicles when your blessed poor people cannot afford them. And passing the expense on to the next class up only brings that class down.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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Phat
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Message 99 of 188 (904926)
01-11-2023 3:39 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Theodoric
01-11-2023 3:14 PM


Re: Midwest unprepared
There are no cheap used ones. The working class cannot afford new cars.

The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You (1894).
When both religious and non-religious people reach the same conclusions then you know religion isn't the reason.--Percy
Democrats should not be the only party. Respect the two-party system. -Phat, in December 2022
We see Monsters where Science shows us Windmills.~Phat, remixed

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