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Message 408 of 1639 (915662)
02-16-2024 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 402 by Phat
02-11-2024 10:41 AM


Re: Sources Of Information
Phat writes:
Do you think that I would be better off "conforming" to the rest of you?
No one is asking for anyone to conform to an ideology. What I think many of us "liberals" wish for is that people learn what the facts are instead of living in a fantasy world. By "liberals" I mean a wide spectrum of people from both the left and right who happen to believe that facts are important.
I think there are very healthy policy debates that could happen between the left and right sides of our political system, but that's not what we are getting. Instead, we are just continually rolling our eyes as the GOP circus gets all riled up about the latest misinformation found on Facebook or Fox News. A perfect example is the GOP refusing to vote on a bipartisan border bill THAT THEY NEGOTIATED FOR.

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Message 411 of 1639 (915690)
02-16-2024 1:46 PM
Reply to: Message 409 by AZPaul3
02-16-2024 12:10 PM


Re: Sources Of Information
AZPaul3 writes:
As I understand this was a Trump order. He called the party down.
Yep. They will do everything they can to stop Biden from helping the American people because it would make Biden look good.
The GOP platform has devolved into "Whatever the Democrats are for we are against".

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Message 435 of 1639 (916459)
03-04-2024 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 425 by K.Rose
03-03-2024 5:52 PM


K.Rose writes:
How would Trump be bad for the country and the free world?
Just off the top of my head . . .
1. Shutting down media organizations that disagree with Trump
2. Turning the Justice Department into an enforcement department for the Republican party.
3. Withdrawing support from our European allies in a tacit approval of Russian aggression in the region.
4. Throwing out any election results that don't go Trump's way.
5. He's an erratic know-nothing who could have access to the big red button.
6. Is running for no other purpose than to pardon himself from the crimes he has committed.
I could keep going.

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Message 437 of 1639 (916463)
03-04-2024 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 436 by Omnivorous
03-04-2024 1:30 PM


Re: We Da People Dumb As Stump
Omnivorous writes:
So I'm skeptical that Trump has enough cognitive and physical reserve to reach Election Day.
I wonder what the betting odds are on Trump refusing to debate Biden.

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Message 454 of 1639 (916500)
03-05-2024 10:42 AM
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03-05-2024 8:50 AM


Re: Supreme Court vs U.S.Constitution Implications
Phat writes:
One would think that the U.S. Supreme Court would not be political, but apparently stacking it with conservative judges was a long range strategy.They sure came to a quick conclusion.
To be quite honest, I think it would help the country seeing Trump defeated at the ballot box, more so than having courts preventing him from running.
So how dangerous is this man? What if the tables were turned and enough dirt was dug up on anyone else to bar them?
Who else has participated in an insurrection? Did Hillary Clinton hold a rally and have them interrupt the peaceful transfer of power when Trump's votes were tallied? Who else has tried to have fake electors counted by Congress?
I think that blocking a candidate who may likely defeat your party is a cheap shot, barring any evidence that he is clearly dangerous.
You know, except for that evidence that he aided an insurrection against the United States which the US Constitution states is grounds for disqualification.

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Message 455 of 1639 (916501)
03-05-2024 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 452 by Phat
03-05-2024 9:10 AM


Re: The Mouth That Roared
Phat writes:
Biden, on the other hand, has fed a war in Europe in order to preserve the peace and has allowed far too many undesireables into our country.
In what way has Biden let these people in?

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Message 457 of 1639 (916519)
03-05-2024 1:23 PM
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03-05-2024 11:35 AM


Re: We Da People Dumb As Stump
Omnivorous writes:
Lucian Trucott (Lucian K. Trucott, IV), columnist at Salon, critiques some apparent bizarre sampling methodology in the poll.
Recently, the polling in general just doesn't make sense. Ignoring polls is risky, but it is strange to see Trump ahead when 10-20% of the voters in the Republican primary have said that they won't vote for Trump in general election. Trump lost by 7 million votes nationally with nearly 100% of those Republican voters, and now he's ahead after losing 10-20% of them? This doesn't even address independents who hate Trump.
The irony is that if the Republicans nominated Haley they would probably win.

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Message 461 of 1639 (916526)
03-05-2024 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 459 by K.Rose
03-05-2024 5:39 PM


K.Rose writes:
If you just want your adversary to behave then you don’t insult/provoke him gratuitously, and you don’t try to grind him into the ground. You take him behind closed doors, administer the firm discussion and threats, get what you want from him, and then emerge smiling, waving, shaking hands, clapping each other on the back, and telling everyone what a great bunch of guys you are.
That's what Neville Chamberlain did with Hitler. Didn't work out that well. Appeasing dictators doesn't work.
He says a thousand things every day and it’s easy enough to cherry pick something and try to make something of it that it’s not, but you have to look at the tangible, measurable results.
Unemployment below 4%, massive GDP growth, one of the lowest inflation rates in the developed world, wages increasing faster than inflation, way more job growth than under Trump . . . hmm, you might be one to something about this Biden guy.

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Message 469 of 1639 (916543)
03-06-2024 10:46 AM
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03-05-2024 8:47 PM


K.Rose writes:
Soooooo......is there a parallel to draw or is this just a matter of supporting aspersions with slightly more clever aspersions?
A perfect description of Trump's social media posts.

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Message 470 of 1639 (916544)
03-06-2024 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 467 by Phat
03-06-2024 1:07 AM


Re: The Mouth That Roared
Phat writes:
I had to check the facts.
According to Snopes:
Yes, they illegally entered the country.
You are saying that Biden let them in. In what way is Biden letting them in?

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Message 475 of 1639 (916578)
03-06-2024 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 474 by Tanypteryx
03-06-2024 4:57 PM


Tanypteryx writes:
Most of the crazy inflation is actually record corporate profits! AND because of the Inflation Reduction Act inflation in the U.S. is lower than the rest of industrial countries.
The massive increase in money supply is probably the root cause of that inflationary period. The choice at the time was between a massive recession or future inflation. Personally, future inflation does seem like the better choice.
As to the Inflation Reduction Act, it has little to do with inflation, and will probably increase inflation in the future due to subsidies that are driving a build out of the manufacturing sector in a time of labor shortages. However, the economic benefit will probably greatly outweigh the inflation that it causes, for what it's worth. The pandemic showed us how delicate global supply chains are, and I think this is driving a shift in how we view manufacturing. For the most part, it makes a lot of sense to get as much of the supply chain under domestic control as possible, and to get as much as possible moved out of China.

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Message 486 of 1639 (916604)
03-07-2024 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 478 by K.Rose
03-06-2024 8:11 PM


K.Rose writes:
You might be the only person in the country who thinks there is no inflation problem.
Inflation is at 3.1%. How is that crushing?
crushing interest rates
Yes, to keep inflation low.
This is the aftermath of the COVID pandemic. We had the choice between a crushing recession and higher inflation. We chose the right one.
and all the kings men don't quite know how to deal with it
What fantasy land are you living in? Biden has added more jobs than any modern presidency in a 4 year span, by a lot. All you are doing is repeating misinformation from Fox News.

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Message 487 of 1639 (916605)
03-07-2024 10:40 AM
Reply to: Message 480 by marc9000
03-06-2024 8:51 PM


marc9000 writes:
Johnson and Carter didn't have the cult following that Biden does, no U.S.president has ever had the mainstream media so fiercely on their side.
Biden cult following??? What fantasyland do you live in?
It's also not hard to have the mainstream media on your side when the opposition is the Nazi party in a cheap suit. They are talking about concentration camps for brown people, for crying out loud.

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Message 488 of 1639 (916606)
03-07-2024 10:43 AM
Reply to: Message 481 by marc9000
03-06-2024 9:01 PM


Re: The Mouth That Roared
marc9000 writes:
Joe Biden reverses anti-immigrant Trump policies hours after swearing-in | Biden administration | The Guardian
How is that in any way "Joe Biden letting illegal immigrants in"?

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Message 505 of 1639 (916658)
03-08-2024 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 503 by marc9000
03-08-2024 1:12 PM


Re: The Mouth That Roared
marc9000 writes:
By reversing previous policies that were proven to help keep them out.
How was any such thing proven?
We have also seen Democrats and Biden agree to a negotiated bipartisan immigration bill that would greatly increase border security. Guess what happened? Trump and Republicans killed the bill.

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