Atheists: Time to Come Out of the Closet!

You're comparing yourself to Paul? Anyway, I'd say being struck blind for three days, flashes of light and the Lord speaking directly to him would have been fairly convincing for a superstitious primitive.I suspect your revelation was rather more mundane.But you consider it fair, being a 'chosen one'?

See above. I edited my post.As for fairness....it likely will happen to you too some day.(as long as you resist thinking yourself higher than a superstitious primative! )

It did, my revelation was that it's all bollox. You're avoiding the question. Obviously it happens to very few people so how is it fair?​

Be more specific. What do you mean *all*?

Do you mean that all organized religion is bollox?

Do you mean that the very idea of a higher power is bollox?

Do you mean that faith is bollox?

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Narrow down precisely what your revelation was? Was it a sudden one day revelation or has it been reinforced by your peer group?

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And it appears that your revelation does not happen to everyone either.How is that fair?

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Are we superstitious contemporaries all doomed to live out a self fulfilling prophecy?
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I mean that all claims of the supernatural are bollox. Organised religion double bollox as it utilises human credulity for its own purposes. I realised that the words I was saying in church were embarrassing bollox and that my church had no clothes on. Probably took about 6 months. I had to fight my peer group and my parents. However, I couldn't help noticing that when both their kids had left home they no longer went to church. Seems they were only going through the motions for us bless 'em.
​ My revelation wasn't a revelation you wingnut! It was no more a revelation than finding out Father Christmas was a sweet little invention used by our parents to make us happy. No voices, apparitions or supernatural interventions, just reason and realisation.Anyway, I asked first, why, if our eternal souls depend on it, is it fair that Jesus only reveals himself to a very few? What makes you so special?
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Try not to evade the question.
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Still no answer Phat?

What makes you think you have no choice?Here you are logically deducing that an eternal Jesus does not (indeed cannot) exist, but you still have a choice to be illogical and accept Him. It's not always about waiting for Him to choose you. It's about allowing your mind to choose Him. Unless for some reason you think that that type of thinking will hurt you.Forget the bells and smells. Your religion was ritualistic and archaic.The Protestant Word of Faith pushers are no better.Jesus never skips over anyone. He is always right there.

Can you please answer my questioner or tell me that you can't; quit trying to avoid it.why, if our eternal souls depend on it, is it fair that Jesus only reveals himself to a very few?

There is a difference between hearing about someone and meeting them. I don't expect to get a touch or a personal call from Buddha or Allah. Or, for fun, lets say that you believed that you were sent from GOD. I wouldn't expect to get a revelation from you! But the question is this: Have I met you?If not, no revelation is possible.

It's not.If I thought that at one point in my life, I had met Him, and if I subsequently died and was told that I believed a lie, I would be quite upset. (Or I would be dead and thus unable to perceive anything.)I have a clear choice in this life. I can choose to believe in a higher power or I can safely assume there are none, and carry on accordingly.Did I answer your question?

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​ Yes, thank you.There is an obvious follow-upWhy is your god unjust?

Do you mean why did He supposedly bless Jacob Israel and curse Esau Palestine?

No Phat, we weren't talking about that were we?You've agreed with me that god revealing himself to a few people and not to all people is unfair (given that the future of our everlasting soul is supposed to be at stake.) So why is your god so unfair?

First of all, you have set the guideline by declaring that "my God" is unfair. It would be similar to the idea that a bunch of radio stations were operating in one area and that you could not pick up "my radio station" on your receiver. You might ask why I get a seemingly perfect signal while you get static. I would respond by saying that there is only one radio station and the rest are simply fake. Yet people tune in to them.Now I know how you will reply. Belief is cultural and relative and the reception you get depends on where you live. This is true yet is not true. John 3:16 clearly says that whosoever believes will then get the reception from "my frequency". I put that in quotes because I do not believe that your cultural relativistic premise is necessarily true.In other words, it is not "my frequency". It is THE frequency.Perhaps you should ask why a Hamas militant states that God told him to kill. Obviously
not THE frequency. To emphasize the same point....3000 miles away in Atlanta, Georgia, a preacher preaches that God wants us all to be prosperous. Though tempting, I reject that thought. It is not THE frequency. It is a false signal.My subtitle is Choose This Day...whom you will serve. God or Money. Atheists do not think about which "frequency" to listen to. They listen to their own conscience and the conscience of a rational fact-based community. I mentioned that there were many false frequencies...many fake symbols. The primary difference is that you also reject my symbol. My frequency. "My God". so here we are in the atheist thread.

Sometimes I ask that same question when I see people wealthier than myself and wish that they would help the poor people. Yet they don't. My conscience gets nudged.
Then I look around at many atheists and humanists giving unselfishly to the Red Cross or Greenpeace or the Democratic party. (A type and shadow of a secular group of "believers"....difference being that they believe in Democracy and not original sin or religion.)Many atheists have the heart of Jesus, though they reject religion.Many more are idealists who insist that it all starts with unity.Show me Israel and Palestine getting along. Show me Democrats and Republicans forming a "Unity Party" here.