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Author Topic:   Israel Declares War For The First Time Since 1973.
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Message 68 of 378 (913231)
10-18-2023 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by Phat
10-18-2023 10:45 AM


Re: War Update from BBC
Phat in Message 62 writes:
You are the people who cheer when Hamas strikes Israel!
I didn't cheer. Most of the people that I know are liberals who didn't cheer.
You look at the extremes of the left, and mistakenly assume that all leftists agree with them. Why?
I look at the extremes of the right (such as Trump and Jim Jordan), but I recognize that they are not representative off all on the right.

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Message 87 of 378 (913292)
10-21-2023 5:40 PM
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10-21-2023 3:54 PM


Re: War Update from BBC
Phat in Message 85 writes:
Why can't the Palestinians simply move?
Why can't Phat simply move, and allow indigenous Ameticans to have his apartment?
When you ask the question in the abstract, it seems like there's a simple solution. But when you put yourself in the same position, it does not look as simple.

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Message 90 of 378 (913296)
10-22-2023 10:46 AM
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Re: War Update from BBC
Phat in Message 88 writes:
It is no simpler for the Israelis to move.
Agreed. That's why there is no easy solution.

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Message 174 of 378 (913553)
11-13-2023 9:13 AM
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11-13-2023 3:03 AM


Re: This Sums Up The General Attitude
Phat in Message 173 writes:
Does this seem plausible?
Is it plausible -- yes.
Is it true -- I don't know, and I don't trust either side to be truthful here.

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Message 201 of 378 (913602)
11-20-2023 12:56 PM
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11-20-2023 12:13 PM


Re: Addressing The Right To Exist
Percy tends to blame Israel for all of the wrongs in that conflict, but Israel should not be vilified simply for being powerful.
I don't think that's fair to Percy. His objection is to USA (and our tax dollars) taking sides. I think he would prefer us to remain neutral.
I have a mixed view on that. As best I can tell, Biden is putting pressure on Netanyahu to take a more humanist approach. Biden's major concern may be with trying to prevent Iran from taking advantage of what is going on.

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Message 218 of 378 (913647)
11-25-2023 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Phat
11-25-2023 3:34 PM


Re: A Reflection Of My Own Wicked Heart
Phat in Message 217 writes:
We get mad at shoplifters because they take material goods and raise prices for everyone else.
That's not quite right. It is the store owners who raise prices.
Yes, shoplifters raise the cost of doing business. But changing how you do business so as to discourage shoplifting, would also raise prices. Presumably the store owners have looked at their options.
I'll agree with Tangle, that I am not suggesting the shoplifters should have their way. Rather, I'm suggesting that you should stop getting angry about it. It is a problem for the store owners to resolve. It isn't your personal problem. We live in a complex world with lots of different people who have different ideas. You can't control what they all think.
As for Hamas and Israel -- I am not supporting Hamas. But I also cannot support the way that Israel is currently handling it. As Percy says, the way Israel has been dealing with it will only breed the next group of terrorists.
I don't have a magic solution to the middle east problem. There are no easy solutions.

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