GDR:
When you say that consciousness is a universal property of the life process I'm wondering what you would include in the term life process. Does an ant have consciousness; does an amoeba or a rose?
mitchellmckain:
Yes of course. The quantitative measure of consciousness may differ by factors of millions to one, but yes; the ant much more conscious than the rose ...
GDR:
I wouldn't have thought you'd go as far as a rose ...
Looks like I missed a very interesting discussion!
I agree with Mitchell, probably more that he would like me to, because my current views are even more radical than his and are summarized as follow:
... Consciousness is the fundamental property of Matter that is just not observable in the non-living systems. Consciousness property of subatomic Matter is not recognized by fundamentally incomplete quantum mechanics theory. Consciousness property of Matter also is not observable in the thermodynamically equilibrium systems. However if a system steered far enough from an equilibrium and past a critical point, a non-equilibrium system will emerge. The further development of these systems in the direction out from equilibrium will reveal the property that causes the phenomenon we call - LIFE ...
To find more about this idea you can go to
http://www.iscid.org/...rs/Iosim_ComplexSystemSimplicity.pdf.
An introduction to this essay was posted also in this EvC forum in Biological Evolution section under topics "THE SIMPLICITY OF THE COMPLEX SYSTEMS"
Mark
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