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mr_matrix
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Message 52 of 84 (313378)
05-18-2006 10:49 PM


Preceptions
It is true that this world for you is all about your soul using your brain that uses the input. This input is about preceptions, even time is perception. But, athiests and materialists strongly disagree to this simply because this view of the world in terms of perceptions and existance of souls completely demolishes their believe in matter as being absolute and further supports the existance of God.

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mr_matrix
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Message 54 of 84 (313384)
05-18-2006 11:10 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by ohnhai
05-18-2006 11:00 PM


Re: Preceptions
First of all, the so called "scientific model" is based on materialism and not all scientists view science with disbelief in God. Second, an experiment for the existance of soul: i'll give you a simple experiment that every one tried in his/her life. If a person swears at you or says a word that hurts your feelings, your body is totally unharmed, so what is it that hurts inside you? It is the consiousness of the soul. In addition, when a brain is disected all you can find in it is just a mass of fats and proteins. So what is it that thinks, feels, judges, decides and performs all the consious deeds. It is simply your soul, the brain is just a tool for the soul. You cannot have an absolute believe in the brain because it too can be easily decieved. Take the example of dreams where your brain is decieved into seeing what seems to be reality but it is in fact just a dream.

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mr_matrix
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Message 61 of 84 (313590)
05-19-2006 4:38 PM


It is hard for some people to grasp the concept of souls because their rigid belief in science without God limits their minds. But, there is an important thing that everyone should realize: science is very limited itslef and we dont even know all the unexplained secrets in Earth, let alone the entire universe.
Materialist science that has no belief in souls or in God is like a man who spent his entire life inside a closed room with no windows to see the outside world. Then this man claims that the world is only the room where he lives and that there is no outside world. Similarly, our science is limited to what we see in the universe and there is no scientific evidence to DISprove the existance of souls or supernatural powers.

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mr_matrix
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Message 65 of 84 (313917)
05-20-2006 3:07 PM
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05-20-2006 3:02 AM


Re: Synapses vs. soul
The existance of millions of electrical connections is not an evidence against the existance of souls. Life is not just based on chemical reactions and brain connection. The soul is a cencept that cannot be grasped by science.

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