How did Noah deal with worms?

As well as a terrible waste of electrons and photons........

I looked into this. There are three major species of earthworms which are grouped into three distinct classes: from: http://users.dragnet.com.au/~lindah/awga/behav.htmlI suppose I am more concerned with the EPIGENIC variety. These don't live under watter at all and by definition live on the looser, nutrient rich, topsoil.This message has been edited by Yaro, 08-06-2004 02:07 PM

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Were talking of a whole lot of debris, trees, brush, grass, leaves no reason it wouldn't tangle together compacting enough, for earth worm habitats.

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How long do you figure it took that derbris to accumulate into something reasonably sustainable for earthworms? Wouldn't the debris be constantly changing because of the violent action of the water?As fast as that flood supposedly filled up the earth, I would think by the time the earthworm came to the surface it was already in deep water. I don't assume that earthworms are prolific swimmers.The odds of these supposed debris floats sustaining earthworms for a year doesn't seem promising.Of course if the flood wasn't truly world wide, then the worms just headed for the border.

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If sure does seem suspect that the common earthworm has adapted without any problem to swim in the sands of the lakes, rivers and streams, leaning that your EPIGENIC variety skin is a bit thick, from moving dirt, to absorb sufficient o2 from the water. It would be interesting to see if one could raise young earthworms to live in aquatic conditions, given the similarities, beginning to suspect they are one and the same organism, one becomes a bit thick skinned, to burrow through the earth, absorbing enough oxygen in the highly oxygenated terresterial air through their thick skin, and the other becoming thin skinned to beable to absorb more Oxygen in a less oxygenated aquatic environment, but they both absorb Oxygen through their outer surface membranes, is there any evidence that they are not one and the same organism "?" , etc...http://www.fcps.k12.va.us/...Ecology/mpages/aquatic_worm.htmAquatic worms, just like earthworms, are hermaphrodites. This means there's not really a male or female. When aquatic worms mate, each worm is then able to lay eggs. Aquatic worms lay eggs inside small cocoons in the mud, on rocks, or on plants. Eggs are usually laid in late Summer or early Fall.

I googled this quote from another fourm: I coroborated the post by finding a site hosted at a university with similar data. Earthworms indeed can live under fresh water, however from what little I could find Earthworms will die when exposed to to much salt or acidity.All the refrences I could find about earthworms in water were earthworms in lakebeds and other freshwater sources.There is one species of worm that is found in the salt water oceans called the salt water bloodworm.In any case, I conceed that Earthworms could have survived underwater in shallow freshwater conditions, in well oxyginated waters.However, I don't think the "soil raft hypothesis" holds any watter Anyway, whatever, you were right on this point. But I would still contend that once the rain and ocean mixed there would be too much salt for the worms to survive.

hehe, wow, we posted at the same time. Read above post.

There are way to many possible answers to this question.First off, who said if there was a great flood that it would all be salt water? How would the fresh water fish survive?
I can explain how it wouldn't mix either.Why couldn't there be worms in the ark?
Maybe these simple forms of life are indeed the only ones that evolve?
Maybe God created it that way.I once saw a special about the ark, it said not only could it withstand the storms, where an oil tanker wouldn't, it had enough room on board to actually fit all the animals and supplies with a big space left over. After much though about what the extra space was for, it was then thought that the dinosaurs could have fit in the ark as well.

Well, shit, Riverrat!If you saw it on TV it must be true!

I saw a show on TV that confirmed Big foot. Unfortunately
all the eye witnesses where big foot devotees. All the photographic evidence was grainy and unclear. Was big foot on the Ark too?

I know, thats why I said I saw it on TV. I never said I believe its true.

I don't see why he couldn't have scooped up a bucket of dirt and tossed some leaves on top of it. Worms live a long time with neglect (I speak from experience) they don't require much. Halfway decent moisture, organic material, and a little bit of grit will keep them kicking.Also, what about their eggs. I don't know much once you get into that area.

Welcome to EvC southerngurl. Glad you found your way home.What about ringworms, tapeworms, heartworms, hookworms, threadworms, whipworms, pinworms, roundworms?

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If Noah brought two of every animal that was worth having along, they probably came with all sorts of parasites. Noah himself probably had a few. Unless you claim he only brought along two of each, including the asexual ones, I don't see why that would be a problem for the idea of a global flood. Not that it doesn't have a million problems already, but parasites, surprisingly enough, don't add one more that I can think of.Now with earthworms, I think a lot of people in this thread were considering them as being left out. I don't see why Noah couldn't have just taken a bucket of dirt and worms aboard with him and kept them alive for the duration of the flood. It would be much easier to ensure the survival of earthworms than it would be for, say, penguins, or elephants, or any of the countless species of large, dangerous animals, like hippopotamus or grizzly bears.

GaryWell how about ice worms then? These creatures can only exist on glaciers in temperatures at the freezing point of water or less.Unless you are seriously going to suggest that noah also had refrigeration aboard the Ark{which is a can of worms you don't want to open} please explain how these creatures were able to survive?You can check them out at this website
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What about ringworms, tapeworms, heartworms, hookworms, threadworms, whipworms, pinworms, roundworms?

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Thanks for the welcome. Whipworms can live as eggs in the soil. They can survive for 5 years in the area an infected dog was. I know that roaches can carry roundworms. Also, roundworms are not that bad, an adult cat could have carried them without problems showing. Tapeworms can be carried by fleas and mice. The animal eats the flea (EW) to get the worm. Dogs will live for years with heartworms before showing symptoms. Ringworm is a fungus that could easily have been carried on a critter or two. The larvae of hookworms can actually live for months outside a body without food. Pinworms can live in you without causing any problems, other than making you itch down there when they deposit eggs on your behind (can I hear another EW?).