Thought I’d give a general reply to this topic
LindaLou: Telepathy may be some good evidence of this.
LindaLou: I see what you're saying here I think -- that I'm ascribing something supernatural to a process that we simply do not understand now, but may understand in the future.
NJ; We've never witnessed anyone's thoughts.
molbiogirl: Telepathy is bunk.
The topic here is “is thought transcendent?”, and although it has been asked “What the hell does that mean?” I’ll take the route of does thought continue to exist after you have thought something.
The answer to this is, I believe, Yes. It does relate to telepathy.
When a person is thinking the electrical activity in their brain is changing, it is also changing in response to the various experiences they are having right now, or when they remember past experiences. This is a change in current flow.
From basic physics we know that ANY change in current flow will produce an electromagnetic wave. Turn on a light and you have sent out an electromagnetic wave. Lightning creates EM waves, in fact since there are thousands and thousands of lightning storms happening right now worldwide this naturally occurring EM radiation is used to do AFMAG surveys usually looking for metallic mineral deposits. Radio waves, microwaves, visible light, UV are all the same thing, EM radiation, the only difference is the frequency.
So if you are thinking as you read this you are also broadcasting. You can’t help it, it’s just physics.
Can humans detect EM radiation. Of course, we can see. So can lots of other creatures, and sharks can detect fish in their area that are in distress by sensing electrical impulses. Detecting EM radiation is not unusual and it happened quite early in evolutionary history.
Can you read other people’s thoughts? Let’s think about this for a moment. They are broadcasting, but so are you. I’ve been an amateur radio operator since I was 13 in 1962, and financed my undergraduate degree in geology by working as an electronics technician. You can not broadcast and receive on the same frequency at the same time. Your broadcasting will be billions of times larger than any signal you can receive.
What follows does not apply to the average person in the same way having an IQ of 180 doesn’t apply to the average person either. Can a person “silence” their mind, shut down their mental activity? Everything conscious and unconscious except life support systems. Most people can not and most have all kinds of stuff running up there they don’t know about. An example, close one eye, does the world still look 3D? For most people it does, but it is physically impossible to see 3D with one eye. So you must have some mechanism or circuit running upstairs. Turn it off. Bet you can’t. A mind out of control of its owner.
You can turn it off by getting in a car, and deciding to drive across America without ever sleeping. Sooner or later you will get so tired you will lose “depth perception” and crash. Or you could “find” it and figure out how to turn it on and off at will. I can do this. It took me a long time and I have no idea if you can learn how to do it or not.
Most people can not play music by ear, most are not intelligent enough to be a research scientist, most can not learn a second language later in life and have no accent, most do not have a photographic memory, most do not have an IQ of 180, but there are people who exist today in all those categories. Just because the average person can’t do it doesn’t mean it can not be done. It may mean it is just very rare.
From my viewpoint if someone actually wanted to do research on telepathy they would look for people who could innately silence their mind or had learned to do so, instead of just collecting any idiot off the street.
So far in my 58 years I know well only two people who can “see/perceive” what other people are thinking. A fellow named Frank I had worked with at one time back in NY and me. I’ve come across a few others in Lily Dale a spiritualist community where mediums “contact” the dead. Actually what they do is perceive what someone is thinking about their deceased loved ones and describe what they “see”. Most mediums there aren’t very good and some are fakes.
None contact the dead.
BTW even though I can perceive other people’s thoughts I have no psychic/spiritual ability. I only detect EM radiation people are naturally putting out. I don’t do it very often since most of the time like everyone else I’m occupied thinking and if a person is primarily thinking in words and symbols I don’t perceive that very well. They have to be thinking of an actual event in their lives. Let me give you an example. When my older son was 9 he mentioned that nobody could read people’s thoughts. I told him that some people could and asked him to close his eyes and recall sometime in his life when he was having a good time and keep thinking about it, but to say absolutely nothing. I then shut everything off and became a “total observer paying attention”. What happened was I felt something across the upper part of my chest and when I “looked” at “paid close attention” to it, I realized and saw in my mind that I was in a swimming pool (could feel that water lapping against my chest) and saw my older brother standing at the side of the pool on his deck( this was a “picture” from my son’s viewpoint as it would have had to have been, he was doing the recalling). So I said to my son it was the summer before last, you are in Uncle Joe’s pool looking up at him on the deck. His mouth dropped open, yes that was exactly what he was recalling.
No big deal.
Is thought transcendent? Do radio waves and light waves last forever? Thought results in the same thing. Ask a physicist, I think they might, but I’m not sure.
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