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crashfrog
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Message 83 of 189 (408980)
07-06-2007 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by IamJoseph
07-06-2007 10:05 AM


Re: Endogenous Retrovirus DNA
Typhus virus also attack the same organ: the lungs.
Er, that's not the location that's being talked about.
We have an actual survey poll of the known universe: no life on our cloest neighbours (moon, mars); no life in the solar system (voyager mission); no life outside our solar system as per telescopic and radiation imprints.
Yeah, but... life on our planet. Somehow you managed to forget that one planet out of the 8 in the Solar System is actually chock a block with life.
So by your astoundingly obtuse, simplistic logic, you're still forced to conclude that any given planet in the universe might have as much as a 1 in 8 chance of being life-bearing.
The unknown is more probably the same as the known than not
Sure. So, one in 8 for any given planet.
If life exists, at least some would be advanced enough to break the treshold of distance (advancement being time related, as with this planet).
Unless there's no level of advancement that allows one to break the laws of physics.
But let me ask you - if there's no life elsewhere in the universe - which even your arguments don't support - then where did the Wow! Signal come from?
Here, the very theory of evolution can come apart, because it infers that it cannot occur elsewhere - else life would have emerged on the moon.
The moon has no atmosphere or liquid water.
On earth we have life in the most inhospitable conditions, including poisonous volcanic cores and where no light penetrates.
But, even those places there's an atmosphere and liquid water.
Even on Earth, life does not exist where there's not atmosphere and liquid water.
There is no valid reason that life does not exist in the diverse conditions in the known universe.
Yes, that's rather the point, isn't it? That there's no reason to believe that life should be limited to Earth?

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1494 days)
Posts: 19762
From: Silver Spring, MD
Joined: 03-20-2003


Message 87 of 189 (408998)
07-06-2007 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by IamJoseph
07-06-2007 11:59 AM


Re: Endogenous Retrovirus DNA
The relevent factor was, that a virus generally attacks and embeds in a same organ, not which location any virus attacks?
Again - that's not the location we're talking about.
We're not talking about organs, here. We're talking about the genome.
The relevent factor of my arguement pointed to the total absence of life in the known universe
Er, but there's not a total absence of life in the known universe. There's a planet we know of that's completely full of life; where nearly every location between 1 meter beneath the surface to one mile above the surface is filled with living organisms.
That's the planet we live on. Earth. You took our solar system as a sample of the universe as a whole; but then you inaccurately asserted that there was no life anywhere in the Solar System.
Which is patently ridiculous. Out of 8 planets in the Solar System, one of them is highly life-bearing. By your logic, extending the pattern, one out of every 8 planets in the universe should be life-bearing.
Personally I think the Solar System is not a representative sample, but it's your reasoning, not mine.
So? Think outside earth.
Outside of Earth, there are no other planets in the Solar System with liquid surface water and a reducing or oxygen atmosphere.
Think adaptation.
You have to exist before you can adapt. If no other planet has the conditions necessary for abiogenesis, then no surprise that we don't find living things on those planets, adapted or no.
Think life forms addicted to helium?
Since helium is chemically inert, it can't form the basis of any metabolic chemistry.
Edited by crashfrog, : No reason given.

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