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Author Topic:   What we must accept if we accept evolution Part 2
kjsimons
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Message 98 of 301 (282843)
01-31-2006 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 97 by Faith
01-31-2006 9:45 AM


Re: evolution is incompatible with a good God
Well Faith, death and suffering happen in this universe.
Supposedly, your god made this universe.
So your god made death and suffering happen, so your god is an evil or incompetent god. No fair blaming Adam and Eve for eating the apple. Your god set them up for a fall, so he is ultimately responsible.

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kjsimons
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Message 103 of 301 (282849)
01-31-2006 10:00 AM
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01-31-2006 9:52 AM


Re: evolution is incompatible with a good God
Faith, your god brought death and misery upon his creation, it says so in your bible. Nevermind why he did it, but he did. You say evolution is incompatible with your god because the process involves death and suffering, but then your book says god created death and suffering. Seems your view of god is incompatible with your bible.

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kjsimons
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Message 109 of 301 (282859)
01-31-2006 10:12 AM
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01-31-2006 9:56 AM


Re: evolution is incompatible with a good God
I mean, if God exists and is an evil or indifferent God, how would we even have a desire to attain good and be noble, selfless, and altruistic ourselves?
Our desires are shaped by our genes and environment. We don't need a god , good or evil, to want to better ourselves or help others. It's already part of our nature due to the fact that we are a social animal and as such cooperation and altruism have positive effects on social groups and are selected for.
It's pretty obvious after looking at the history of religion that mankind always creates a god(s) to serve their current needs and as those needs change so do their god(s).

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