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Author Topic:   Scientific vs Creationist Frauds and Hoaxes
Pressie
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Message 86 of 220 (636500)
10-07-2011 12:46 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by RAZD
10-06-2011 9:18 PM


Re: Your point is?
Also take note of the fact that you pointed at alledged fraud committed in , that's right, 1868! That's nine years after Origin of Species was published!

Portillo, do you have to go back so far to find an alledged fraud committed by evolutionary scientists? We can go back to this year and point at more than one piece of fraud committed by creationists, just in 2011!


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Message 99 of 220 (636654)
10-09-2011 3:32 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Portillo
10-07-2011 7:43 AM


Haeckel embryo's have never appeared in any high school textbooks utilized in my country.
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Message 111 of 220 (658052)
04-02-2012 4:45 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by Portillo
03-30-2012 11:20 PM


Portillo writes:

Leakey footprints - Footprints were discovered in ash layers that were dated to 3.5 million years ago,….

Geologists determined the age of the rocks these footprints were found in. Those rocks have an age of around 3.6 million years. Way more than 10 000 years old.
Portillo writes:

… around the time apes started walking erect.

Actually, no. Bipedal specializations are found in Australopithecus fossils from 4.2-3.9 million years ago. The footprints you are referring to date from around 3.6 million years old, found in the same strata as a. afarensis fossils.
Portillo writes:

A scientist by the name of Russell Tuttle….

You mean the same scientist who studied these footprints and determined that these a. afarensis creatures, who left these prints, walked bipedally in a fashion almost identical to human beings? That one?
Portillo writes:

….later began studying tribal people that walk around their whole lives barefoot. And observed that the arch in their foot completely disappears, are completely flatfooted and leave tracks identical to the footprints in the ash.

The same one that determined that the creatures (a. afarensis) leaving these prints walked bipedally in a fashion almost identical to human beings from studdying those prints?

Source for some of the information: http://humanorigins.si.edu/...avior/laetoli-footprint-trails

Sorry, I can’t see where any fraud or hoaxes are involved in this. Could you please highlight where you think fraud or hoaxes were committed?

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Message 210 of 220 (735771)
08-24-2014 9:32 AM
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08-23-2014 6:08 PM


mram10 writes:

Nebraska man and piltdown man weren't a hoax??? How long were they taught in schools to be "science"??

Also curious to know. Could you enlighten us on the school books, with exact references (including the dates), where Piltdown Man and Nebraska Man "were taught in schools as "science""? It would be interesting to know.

I ask this, because in the country I live in, the theory of evolution was not even allowed to be taught till 1994. For religious reasons. The text books only mentioned fossils very vaguely in a sentence or two under the heading: What do Palaeontologists do?. That was in career education/ social sciences classes.

Please provide those references. I think that you are not telling the truth here.

mram10 writes:

How long were they still being taught after they were proven to be false?


You tell us. Exact references, please. Without that I think that you were not telling the truth.

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