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Portillo
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Message 81 of 220 (636451)
10-06-2011 5:33 PM



And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12

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Message 84 of 220 (636461)
10-06-2011 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Theodoric
10-06-2011 5:46 PM


Re: Your point is?
Haeckels embryos is a picture that was altered in order to prove embryonic recapitulation.

quote:
“The so-called basic law of biogenetics is wrong. No buts or ifs can mitigate this fact. It is not even a tiny bit correct or correct in a different form. It is totally wrong.” - Erich Blechschmidt

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"It was expected that the embryo would recapitulate the features of its ancestors from the lowest to the highest forms in the animal kingdom. Now that the appearance of the embryo at all stages is known, the general feeling is one of disappointment; the human embryo at no stage is anthropoid in appearance. The embryo of the mammal never resembles the worm, the fish, or the reptile. Embryology provides no support whatsoever for the evolutionary hypothesis." - Sir Arthur Keith

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"We could ignore this pathetic chapter in the history of evolutionism—were it not for something Michael Richardson mentioned in a letter to the editor in the August 28, 1998 issue of Science: “Sadly, it is the discredited 1874 drawings that are used in so many British and American biology textbooks”. The evidence of this statement is obvious when you look at just how far-reaching Haeckel’s drawings have become. Even Dr. Benjamin Spock saw fit to perpetuate Haeckel’s recapitulation myth in his well-known book, Baby and Child Care. Spock confidently assured expectant mothers that “each child as he develops is retracing the whole history of mankind, physically and spiritually, step by step. A baby starts off in the womb as a single tiny cell, just the way the first living thing appeared in the ocean. Weeks later, as he lies in the amniotic fluid of the womb, he has gills like a fish.” - David Menton

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“Its shortcomings have been almost universally pointed out by modern authors, but the idea still has a prominent place in biological mythology.” - Paul Ehrlich

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“Ontogeny does not recapitulate phylogeny.” “You may well ask why we bother you with the principles that turned out to be wrong. There are two reasons. In the first place, belief in recapitulation became so widespread that it is still evident in some writings about biology and evolution. You should know therefore what recapitulation is supposed to be, and you should know that it does not really occur.” - Life: An Introduction to Biology, George Gaylord Simpson and William S. Beck

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Portillo
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Message 89 of 220 (636523)
10-07-2011 7:43 AM


Do Haeckels embryos still appear in high school science textbooks?

And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12

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Message 95 of 220 (636592)
10-08-2011 1:20 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by jar
10-07-2011 7:53 AM


Of course it matters. If its a fraud, it shouldnt be used in textbooks. At least not without a disclaimer which I think some textbooks have.

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Portillo
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Message 98 of 220 (636652)
10-08-2011 8:58 PM
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10-08-2011 8:33 AM


Re: Reading comprehension.
quote:
Would you like to try again?

No.


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Portillo
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Message 106 of 220 (657818)
03-30-2012 11:20 PM


Piltdown man - In 1912, Charles Dawson went to the Piltdown mines and uncovered a transitional fossil between apes and humans. After 40 years, Piltdown man was discovered to be a hoax. Somebody had filed down an orangutan jaw and human skull and buried it in a gravel pit.

Nebraska man - In 1922, a tooth was found that was 1 million years old and combined the characteristics of a chimpanzee and man. Later they found the full skeleton and Nebraska man was an extinct pig.

Java man - Java man was built on a skullcap and teeth now known to have belonged to an orangutan or gibbon.

Leakey footprints - Footprints were discovered in ash layers that were dated to 3.5 million years ago, around the time apes started walking erect. A scientist by the name of Russell Tuttle later began studying tribal people that walk around their whole lives barefoot. And observed that the arch in their foot completely disappears, are completely flatfooted and leave tracks identical to the footprints in the ash.

Neanderthal man - Neanderthal is sometimes portrayed as an ignorant, primitive. knuckledragging apeman. But research shows that neanderthal was highly intelligent and superior. Their cranium was 13% bigger than humans. They made advanced instruments and technology. Makeup has been found, proving that neanderthal women were fashionable. A scientist discovered that some neanderthals were 200 years old.

Orce man - Found in 1982, Orce man was supposedly a 17 year old male who lived 1.6 million years ago. Later it was discovered to be the fossil of a donkey not a human.


And the conspiracy was strong, for the people increased continually - 2 Samuel 15:12

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Portillo
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Message 164 of 220 (666158)
06-22-2012 7:17 PM


Ota Benga - Ota Benga was a pygmy, who in 1904, was kidnapped from his wife and two children in the Congo. He was exhibited as an apeman at the St Louis World Fair and the Bronx Zoo. Because of being caged, fed and treated like an animal, Benga committed suicide. It was later discovered that Benga was actually a human being.

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Can thine heart endure or can thine hands be strong, in the days that I shall deal with thee? I the Lord have spoken it and will do it. - Ezekial 22:14

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