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JonF
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Message 61 of 80 (189174)
02-28-2005 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Dangermouse
02-27-2005 10:21 PM


Re: Tidiness and order
If entropy is expressed by terms of order and disorder and the 2LOT makes reference to entropy then surely 2LOT is expressed in the same terms.
Well, yes. But.........
You need to be very careful to define all the terms.
In this case, "order" is defined as "a system under constant pressure with a small number of accessible microstates". "Disorder" is defined as "a system under constant pressure with a large number of accessible microstates". A "microstate" is defined as "a particular set of values for velocity and position of the atoms or molecules that make up the system". A cold solid crystal has many fewer accessible microstate than the same matter heated to a gas. In particular, a microstate is not a particular arrrangement of macroscopic objects. See Shuffled Cards, Messy Desks, and Disorderly Dorm Rooms Examples of Entropy Increase? Nonsense!.

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