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Author Topic:   The Flood - Animals and their minimum food requirement
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Message 129 of 239 (328224)
07-02-2006 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Faith
06-27-2006 1:17 PM


Re: Dino's you say?
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Don't be ridiculous. We're talking about a space as big as a football field with three stories of that size.
So how come nobody has ever built a scale replica and tried to launch it to see if it would be seaworthy?
Sure, it would be expensive, but I'll bet that if a few of these rich preachers like Falwell, Dobson, and Robertson puitched in they could easily finance it, especially when they call upon their faithful to contibute.
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Message 130 of 239 (328227)
07-02-2006 9:13 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Faith
06-27-2006 3:59 PM


Re: a way little or no food was required
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In any case, animals confined in stalls and cages for a year aren't going to be consuming a lot of calories.
Horses need to eat grass or hay almost constantly or their guts don't work properly. Also, they need to move about almost constantly for the same reason.
Anyway, are you going to address the OP or not?

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Message 131 of 239 (328229)
07-02-2006 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Faith
06-27-2006 4:20 PM


Re: Can we get a number?
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A horse? I would guess that some 90% of the creatures on board the ark were not as big as a horse.
The horses that existed in the middle east at that time were not very big; large ponies, really.
No larger than around 700 pounds I'd imagine.
Lots of animals are larger than that.

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Message 132 of 239 (328231)
07-02-2006 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 37 by deerbreh
06-27-2006 4:41 PM


Re: Can we get a number?
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I don't think Noah had a conventional baler let alone a bulk baler. Who knows. though. It doesn't say he didn't so that is good enough for some.
What I want to know is how Noah got ahold of that much hay, anyway?
Or even half that much.
Didn't he live pretty much in a desert?

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Message 133 of 239 (328232)
07-02-2006 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by nwr
06-27-2006 11:15 PM


Re: Eating after they land
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They will need feed afterwards. A long lasting global flood will kill most vegetation. The seeds might survive, but it will take a while for those to germinate and grow. For grass eaters, it might only be a few weeks before there is sufficient. For those that feed on tree foliage, it will take a while longer.
Of course, all of the soil on the earth will be saturated in salt because the seas mixed with the fresh water.
This makes the soil inhospitable to many plants until the salt levels go down.
It looks to me like all of the weakened, starved herbivores would have been gobbled up by the weakened, starved carnivores since there wouldn't have been anything for them to eat, either.

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Message 134 of 239 (328237)
07-02-2006 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by Faith
06-29-2006 2:30 PM


Re: Just a little question
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Let me just ask: If you were as absolutely convinced of the truth of the Bible account of the flood as a fundamentalist is, absolutely without a doubt knowing that it happened as described, knowing that God is the inspirer of the whole thing, how would you go about answering science's contention that it didn't happen?
God made it happen, even though it doesn't look like it.
Miracles.

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Message 135 of 239 (328238)
07-02-2006 9:52 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by Faith
07-01-2006 10:18 PM


Re: Just a little question
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I don't have in mind only points I personally make, though, but the whole creationist enterprise is treated like dirt, everything they have to say is ridiculed,
Welcome to the rigors of scientific debate.
This is what it's like, faith. Academic scientists are this brutal to each other's (and their own) ideas all of the time. It's part and parcel of their job.
What you characterize as "treating like dirt" is really just normal vigorous dissection of the facts and logic of a claim.
It seems that you get bent out of shape that people don't simply agree with you because you say so.
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lengths gone to it seems to me to invent discrediting language against them,
No need to invent any.
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and to impute evil motives to them.
Pot, kettle, black.
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