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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Damm the tactic of selective quotation is a real habit former isn`t it, you forgot the bit about ".....but by a 2,000 year old religious text the veracity of which is assumed in an act of blind faith" that should go on the end......
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John Paul Inactive Member |
quote: John Paul:First, Genesis is more than 2,000 years old. Second, my faith isn't blind. Third, I am not a Christian or a fundamentalist. Go figure. John Paul ------------------John Paul
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: So you don`t put any credence in the new testament then? What else do you call a position that is adopted against the bulk of the evidence, which attempts to introduce the supernatural to plug many gaps and has no positive evidence? What are you then JP? The "my faith..." statement infers belief in some sort of supernatural power which one is it Jahweh, Allah, Ahura Mazda? Can`t be the God of the bible because you just said you aren`t a christian......
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Theo Inactive Junior Member |
Hey Joz,
When you claim their is no positive evidence for the Bible I have to challenge you. That simply isn't true. In fact there is nothing but evidence for the Bible if one doesn't presuppose it is false, approaches it with an open mind and reads both sides in an honest investigation. In Actuality, it is unreasonable, in light of the evidence to disbelieve the Bible. It is blind faith to disbelieve and reasoned faith to believe. Let me clarify a point briefly before anything else ensues. The Bible defines faith as the evidence of things unseen. Most secular humanist materialists assume it is the belief in things unproven which is false. In Greek, which the new testament is written in, faith is the noun form of the verb believe (a relationship with, to rely upon and trust in) which, meaning it is conduct inspired by belief which has a necessary reference to proof as compared to belief without a reference to proof which is merely a natural exercise of opinion. One has the grammer and the context for the definition. I look forward to the jousting ------------------theo
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Is there evidence, independant evidence, that is, of biblical divinity/supernaturality? Showing the bible had a historical backdrop means little. Dr Zhivago, War & Peace, Kellys Heroes, would be true if that were the case, instead of stories. What allegedly sets the bible apart from those stories is God, the supernatural. This is the evidence you must provide. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Sure theres positive evidence for the bible its a big heavy book that I`m looking across the room at as I type this..... What theres no evidence for is the veracity of ALL its contents.... P.S The jousting can only start when you offer some possible evidence up......
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derwood Member (Idle past 1876 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
I fabricated nothing.
True, you did not write "This is so-and-so's address". You did not need to. It was apparent to everyone that read it what yu were doing - and of course who can forget the crack about 'not everyone drives through my town to go skiing'... Thinly veiled threats are thinly veiled threats. But you are not worth worrying about and waasting time with on the internet. Email me: huxter4441@aol.com and we can set up a meeting to work this all out. As for the 'personal' thing with Fred, it is hard not to respond with flaming gibberish with an in-kind reply. He is a post-and-runner now anyway, so there is nothing to worry about.
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John Paul Inactive Member |
SLP:
I fabricated nothing. John Paul:Most of what you posted was a fabrication or a misrepresentation. As far as I can tell that is what you do. SLP:True, you did not write "This is so-and-so's address". John Paul:Thanks for verifying what I said. SLP:You did not need to. John Paul:Is that why you had to go out of your way to point it out to that board's administrator(s)? You are a joke huxter. Like I said only you, myself and anyone who already knew that information would have known what it pertained to. SLP:It was apparent to everyone that read it what yu were doing John Paul:Obviously not. SLP:- and of course who can forget the crack about 'not everyone drives through my town to go skiing'... John Paul:How many times do we have to over this? Those are not my words. SLP:Thinly veiled threats are thinly veiled threats. John Paul:And you still don't know the difference between inferred and implied. Some phd you are. Any alleged threat was inferred. If you weren't such an abusive prick perhaps you wouldn't be so paranoid. ------------------John Paul
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bretheweb Inactive Member |
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bretheweb Inactive Member |
Please read "The Bible Unearthed" by Israel Finkelstein.
brett ------------------Faith in a delusional belief does not make that belief not delusional.
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
If Fred's contributions are really flaming gibberish then is there really a need to dignify them with a response? Anyway, in composing a response to gibberish, replying "in-kind" can make it very difficult for other people to tell who is the raving lunatic --Percy
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derwood Member (Idle past 1876 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote: Email me huxter4441@aol.com and we can set up a meeting to work this all out. I've grown quite tired of your rhetoric.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: I hate to mention this but does anyone else get a certain pistols at dawn feeling about this meeting?
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Mister Pamboli Member (Idle past 7577 days) Posts: 634 From: Washington, USA Joined: |
O I do like to start a Monday morning with a warm smug feeling of "I told you so!"
(see my original post 6)
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Percy Member Posts: 22392 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
SLP and JP,
I think it's a good idea for you two to "meet" and attempt to reconcile your differences. I hope it works out, but please be aware that the next guidelines violation will earn the guilty party a 24-hour vacation. --Percy
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