EvC Forum: 20 Questions... (from Walt Brown to evolutionists)

The poster Whatever has been talking about Walt Brown for a while now in another thread, and was kind enough to post his website, which I found to be very typical... Anyway, one aspect caught my eye - the twenty questions that Brown would like evolutionists to answer. Now, I am only a geologist and many of these are miles outside my area of expertise, but I think that between all of us, we can tackle them.

I've started already - my answers are in italics.

Here they are:

1. Where has macroevolution ever been observed? What’s the mechanism for getting new complexity, such as new vital organs? If any of the thousands of vital organs evolved, how could the organism live before getting the vital organ? (Without a vital organ, the organism is deadby definition.) If a reptile’s leg evolved into a bird’s wing, wouldn’t it become a bad leg long before it became a good wing? How could metamorphosis evolve?

2. Do you realize how complex living things are? How could organs as complicated as the eye or the ear or the brain of even a tiny bird ever come about by chance or natural processes? How could a bacterial motor evolve? How could such motors work until all components evolved completely and were precisely in place?

3. If macroevolution happened, where are the billions of transitional fossils that should be there? Billions! Not a handful of questionable transitions. Why don’t we see a reasonably smooth continuum among all living creatures, or in the fossil record, or both?

There's a few things wrong here - most notably that not all things that die are fossilised, not all fossils are accessible on the surface, not all accessible fossils have been excavated, not all fossils that are removed are studied, and not all that are studied are put in transition sequences. Also punctuated equilibrium ensures that you cannot expect a smooth transition every time.

4. Textbooks show an evolutionary tree, but where is its trunk and where are its branches? For example, what are the evolutionary ancestors of the insects?

This confused me... Is he talking about fossil lineages? Cladograms? Why is he messing about with a metaphor?

5. How could the first living cell begin? That’s a greater miracle than for bacteria to evolve into man. How could that first cell reproduce? Just before life appeared, did the atmosphere have oxygen or did it not have oxygen? Whichever choice you make creates a terrible problem for evolution. Both must come into existence at about the same time.

Abiogenesis, not evolution. Evolution couldn't care less how life came to be; just that it happened.

6. Please point to a strictly natural process that creates information. What evidence is there that information, such as that in DNA, could ever assemble itself? What about the 4,000 books of coded information that are in a tiny part of each of your 100 trillion cells? If astronomers received an intelligent signal from some distant galaxy, most people would conclude that it came from an intelligent source. Why then doesn’t the vast information sequence in the DNA molecule of just a bacterium also imply an intelligent source?

7. Which came first, DNA or the proteins needed by DNA, which can only be produced by DNA?

8. How could sexual reproduction evolve? How could immune systems evolve?

Because they were selected for and became dominant traits.

9. If it takes intelligence to make an arrowhead, why doesn’t it take vastly more intelligence to create a human? Do you really believe that hydrogen will turn into people if you wait long enough?

It doesn't take more intelligence to make a human - after all, we do it all the time.

10. If the solar system evolved, why do three planets spin backwards? Why do at least 30 moons revolve backwards?

The solar system did not evolve.

11. Can you name one reasonable hypothesis on how the moon got thereany hypothesis that is consistent with all the data? Why aren’t students told the scientific reasons for rejecting all the evolutionary theories for the moon’s origin? What about the other 128+ moons in the solar system?

Yes, there are several reasonable hypotheses on how the moon got there. One is that it was created with the Earth; another is that a planetoid collided with the Earth at a very early stage and threw out enough material to make the moon.

12. Where did matter, space, time, energy, or even the laws of physics come from? What about water?

Who cares? Maybe God. This has nothing to do with evolution. I don't know why he thinks water is important though.

13. How could stars evolve?

Stars don't evolve.

14. Are you aware of all the unreasonable assumptions and contradictory evidence used by those who say the earth is billions of years old?

Sigh... I can't answer this. I'll only start breaking forum guidelines. Anyone else want to have a go?

15. Why are living bacteria found inside rocks that you say are hundreds of millions of years old and in meteorites that you say are billions of years old? Clean-room techniques and great care were used to rule out contamination.

16. Did you know that most scientific dating techniques indicate that the earth, solar system, and universe are young?

Blatant lie. Most dating techniques I am familiar with say that the Earth, at least, is old.

17. Why do so many ancient cultures have flood legends?

18. Have you heard about the mitochondrial Eve and the genetic Adam? Scientists know that the mitochondrial Eve was the common female ancestor of every living person, and she appears to have lived only about 6,000—7,000 years ago.

I could be wrong but I think there actually were seven mitochondrial "Eve's". Anyone?

19. Careful researchers have found the following inside meteorites: living bacteria, salt crystals, limestone, water, sugars, terrestrial-like brines, and earthlike isotopic patterns. Doesn’t this implicate Earth as their sourceand a powerful launcher, the fountains of the great deep"?

20. Would you explain the origin of any of the following 25 features of the earth:

The Grand Canyon and Other Canyons - Sedimentation and Erosion
Mid-Oceanic Ridge - Tectonics
Continental Shelves and Slopes - Tectonics
Ocean Trenches - Tectonics
Seamounts and Tablemounts
Earthquakes - Tectonics
Magnetic Variations on the Ocean Floor - Tectonics
Submarine Canyons - Sedimentation and Erosion
Coal and Oil Formations - Sedimentation and Erosion
Methane Hydrates - ? What's he talking about?
Ice Age - Climate change caused by Tectonics
Frozen Mammoths - Caused by dead mammoths getting frozen
Major Mountain Ranges - Tectonics
Overthrusts - Tectonics
Volcanoes and Lava - Tectonics
Geothermal Heat - Tectonics
Strata and Layered Fossils - Sedimentation and Erosion
Metamorphic Rock - Tectonics, Sedimentation and Erosion
Limestone - Sedimentation and Erosion
Plateaus - Sedimentation and Erosion
Salt Domes - Sedimentation and Erosion
Jigsaw Fit of the Continents - Tectonics
Changing Axis Tilt - Tectonics
Comets - Not a feature of the Earth
Asteroids and Meteoroids - Not a feature of the Earth

I cheated a little on the last bit there - this post is getting too long to go into any kind of detail on the individual features. If I'm wrong anywhere please point it out - as a scientist, of course, accuracy is far more important than my ego

The Rock Hound

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