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Author Topic:   YHWH, Yahweh, Jehovah, adonai, lord, elohim, god, allah, Allah thread.
One_Charred_Wing
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Message 242 of 298 (397986)
04-28-2007 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 241 by Buzsaw
04-28-2007 6:51 PM


According to the Biblical NT, no scripture in it advocates or sanctions violence. Neither of the alleged prophets of Allah are of the Old Testament era/dispensation.
But the old testament does when the followers of YHWH kick the Caananites out of Caanan. So do we throw out the OT's policies for the NT's? Yes? Good; then we can stop pretending that the worldwide flood was literal.
The preaching and even the possession of the New Testament, Jesus and the gospels is strictly forbidden in most totalitarian Muslam fundamentalist nations. This supports my position that these religions, their prophets and their gods are diametrically opposed and not one and the same.
So Allah's the bad guy because some of his followers are so down on Christanity? Many Christians in this country would like nothing better than to burn nonbelievers and even minorities at the stake. So does that make YHWH a villain?
Oh, and please don't say that the above-mentioned Christians misrepresent Christianity, unless you'll agree with the many American Muslims that fundamentalist Islam nations with such bans misrepresent their faith.

I'm bent, bruised, broken, and a little lost. But you know what? I'm not so afraid as you are, who has never ventured away from the trail.

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 245 of 298 (398174)
04-29-2007 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 244 by Buzsaw
04-29-2007 2:41 PM


How is that okay?
Explain how one instance of genocide implies that you're not supposed to do it again? I'm sorry, but why would God promise his followers a land that was already inhabited? That's just plain wrong, did God just say 'oh, by the way, this genocide thing? Let's not do this anymore?'

I'm bent, bruised, broken, and a little lost. But you know what? I'm not so afraid as you are, who has never ventured away from the trail.

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One_Charred_Wing
Member (Idle past 6156 days)
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Message 247 of 298 (398239)
04-29-2007 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 246 by Buzsaw
04-29-2007 10:55 PM


Re: How is that okay?
If Jehovah be the true god, he will do what he will the the promised land and nobody will stop him. Thus Israel wins all their wars regardless of the odds and as per prophecy.
This is the only thing in your post that seemed to address my question. If this is the case, then it sounds like he's more of a tormentor and tyrant than a merciful God for all. We both know that's not the case, so either
a)justify the behavior you described
or
b)admit that he's not always so merciful, loving, and open-minded according to your interpretation of God.

I'm bent, bruised, broken, and a little lost. But you know what? I'm not so afraid as you are, who has never ventured away from the trail.

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One_Charred_Wing
Member (Idle past 6156 days)
Posts: 690
From: USA West Coast
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Message 251 of 298 (398246)
04-29-2007 11:19 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by kuresu
04-29-2007 11:02 PM


Re: How is that okay?
kuresu writes:
well you know, it's relatively pointless to argue about non-existant entities anyhow.
neither your god nor islam's god is real. for that matter, there is no god. so why argue over which one is "right" or "real" when none are?
You know, I was going to point out that you couldn't expect everyone to agree with you that God doesn't exist in the 'Faith and Belief' forum, but then I looked at the header. Why is this in Miscellaneous, anyway?
As for the bet... that'd be great. are there any fundamentalist muslims on here? I feel like I've debated with one before, but my photographic memory uses disposable cameras, so it doesn't always go back three years.

I'm bent, bruised, broken, and a little lost. But you know what? I'm not so afraid as you are, who has never ventured away from the trail.

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